Talk:Eh, Eh (Nothing Else I Can Say)/Archive 1

Keep or not to keep?
Ok, I've created the article for it. Now someone can add additional info and fix it and clean it up. I think we should keep this due to its going to be the third single in Australia. Anyone disagree? --BrenMadge (talk) 04:18, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


 * We have to keep it, as it's charted and is being physically released.


 * Keep it, as confirmed, but any references to fourth single as "LoveGame" needs to be removed as its still unconfirmed. Lots of IP vandalisms are going on. &quot;Legolas&quot; (talk) 09:01, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

-- I kept editing it and never knew why it kept getting deleted. But I see now, yep sure. I know for 100% its the next worldwide single but if you need to wait a week or two to see the music video for proof then that's fine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.152.65 (talk) 05:03, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

LoveGame has been sent to radio stations in Canada recently. Here is a (french canadian) radio station that confirms it: CKOI --Naineonthedancefloor (talk) 09:34, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Genres
I don't think one of her genres are reggae.It is more electro-pop, pop, euro-pop. Dance-pop (talk) 03:28, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Table Fix- Grammer
Realesed- Feb 9, 2oo9- Doesn't make sense, realesed refers to it has already happeded. It should be Realse or Realse date. Dance-pop (talk) 03:36, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Disscusion genres
The ref for reggae does not work. She does not sing reggae genre music. So stop putting it in!!! 60.234.151.56 (talk) 00:05, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


 * It doesn't matter if she sings reggae or not. It's based on influence.  Thank you. Charmed36 (talk) 00:12, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Please stop this edit war. Charmed36, though i have supported you previously. but the IP is right. The link doesnot exist. Please i would request you to stop adding it. &quot;Legolas&quot; (talk) 06:31, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Leogolas2186. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.98.206.13 (talk) 10:37, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi. I would like to comment but as of now, I can't access the link provided. Does it exist? --Efe (talk) 11:05, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The source is back. Upset users keep removing it.  Charmed36 (talk) 23:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I am so sorry but wikipedia cannot use blogs. They are not reputable and relaible enough. Maybe some usre(Charmed36) keep not adding genres that a certin artist does not sing. Maybe thats why you cannot find a source. 60.234.151.56 (talk) 09:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Since reggae can't be in the genre then electropop either. Charmed36 (talk) 01:49, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


 * But she sings electropop. Check her other articles or I could find a source. her pop genre is not sourced or should we take that out too! Dance-pop (talk) 04:34, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Here is stated that the genre is Pop.  Sparks   Fly  18:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


 * It can be reagge it notes the influence the song I believe that is like bubblegum pop, electropop & reagge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SeymourXbraska (talk • contribs) 16:48, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Provide a reliable source anad it will be added, however I do not think it has reggae influences, why do some of you people think that?, give me a reason, it does not even sound near a reggae or influenced. Dance-pop (talk) 04:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

B-side
I took off that the B-Side is "Wunderland" as the track listing has been set and doesn't include it. But if there is a reference to prove me wrong, then just show me the link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.184.90.216 (talk) 05:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Music Video
Official video - http://perezhilton.com/tv/index.php?ptvid=824bffe55a66a —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.216.101.18 (talk) 04:36, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Someone who has seen the video write a desciption of the video. plaese. Dance-pop (talk) 05:50, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I sure will. Anyone who knows how to post an image, please do so. Here is a great one to post:http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3489/picture2se8.png


 * Sorry it can't be included. The resolution is too small for commentary and anyways only a head shot will fail NFCC. Anyone has anything better just let me know. I'll upload it personally then. &quot;Legolas&quot; (talk) 07:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * What resolution do you need then, I can change it to that? What do you mean a headshot will fail? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.216.101.18 (talk) 08:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The image you added should be atleast of 300 length to be sufficient for commentary. If an image only illustrates a normal head shot then that image fails NFCC, because a head shot can be illustrated by language and doesnot need an image for it. So thaths why i said the image you posted will fail. &quot;Legolas&quot; (talk) 09:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks guys. Dance-pop (talk) 04:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey all, i uploaded an image for the video illustrating the change of hairstyle she ahs undergone. The pic is fine and won't fail NFCC, please don't upload anything else. &quot;Legolas&quot; (talk) 11:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I have a source for name of actor in video. It's Johnny Markoudakis. Source is http://www.ohlalamag.com/en/2009/02/lady-gagas-boyfriendjohnny-markoudakis.html I don't know how to include that. Someone keeps usinng source number 30 as verifying it's Daniel Mays when source does not mention any actor. Please help me with this. Thank you.

More review
I think another or two more reviews or needed to support the critical recption section. Dance-pop (talk) 04:20, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Reviews of hte album might include review of "Eh, Eh". That can be added. Make sure that they are from reputable sources like Rolling Stones or AMG. &quot;Legolas&quot; (talk) 04:27, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Sample of song
Could someone put a 23 sec sample. Dance-pop (talk) 21:31, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Genre
Genres should be inorder with the first one in caps and the following ones in small. What say everybody? &quot;Legolas&quot; (talk) 05:51, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * (Edit conflict) Upon checking the article Europop, I figured out that the word Euro is being used as a proper noun here, which means that it should start with an uppercase E regardless of the order. --Efe (talk) 05:54, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ya, saw that too. But thats not the case where Europop is being used in other articles. It starts with small. :-( &quot;Legolas&quot; (talk) 06:06, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm no expert in grammar. Perhaps we solicit other's comments on this. --Efe (talk) 06:11, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * OK before we say wheater it sould be upper or lower, chack other articles with the same word. If we are looking at this at GaGa's and other artists genres, it should be Upper first word then all lower. But wikipedia is supposed to gramitcally correct(mine isnt great--because im typing i dont worry) So maybe it should be upper. I cant really say but I think we need a third parties which we havent delt with to solve this.Dance-pop (talk) 06:17, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You are right Dance-pop. I will ask somebody else's opinion, somebody who corrects grammatical errors. &quot;Legolas&quot; (talk) 06:24, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Legalos you also need third party admins to give opinions and someone who really knows wikipedias rules and musician articles. Perhaps Realist.Dance-pop (talk) 06:46, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll ping him for his opinion. &quot;Legolas&quot; (talk) 06:49, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I have no idea. — R  2  15:03, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Then someone find someone who can gelp with this situation. For now leave it as it is.I guess.Dance-pop (talk) 03:52, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

It's a name derived from the proper name of a geographic location, so "Europop" is correct.&mdash;Kww(talk) 04:08, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Are you a expert in grammtical editing and/or is and knows the guidlines of article musicians. If you are than we will accept your answer. If your not thanks but we need a more expert overview.Dance-pop (talk) 04:20, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * A certified expert? No, but I'm quite interested in linguistics, have studied English grammar, and I've got more than a few edits under my belt. Nobody will be able to provide you with expert credentials on this one. I'll bet that Legolas and Realist will trust me on it when they see that I've commented.&mdash;Kww(talk) 04:30, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Did I say certified. I want someone with a bit more experience. Example Realist whom is 1000 times better then you. So until someone with a bit more "certified expertise" on the matter.Dance-pop (talk) 10:04, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Kww is probably correct, If I had to choose, I would do the same. Again, I'm not sure. Dance-pop, I think Kww is quite capable of making a call on this. — R  2  14:36, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok i agree. About another opinion on the matter is needed to close the disscussion.Dance-pop (talk) 23:38, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I would keep it Europop, go with t grammar.GagaLoveGame (talk) 00:14, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

UK Airplay....
the song keeps being palayed on uk radio stations! i have heard it numerous times on the radio whilst out in my car and i've also seen the video on the music channels, is it just for promotion for the album cos it goes with the sunny weather we've been having lately? or are the record company planning on releasing it? any ideas? Mister sparky (talk) 16:04, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you provide any source for this? --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 09:55, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

only hearing it myself on the radio, radio stations dont post the songs they play on the internet... i was just curious about hearing it and wondered if anybody else from the uk and if anybody knew any reasons why. if there is a reason. most likely tho its just for promo purposes Mister sparky (talk) 15:25, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Radio sations sometimes promote an artisit. Songs usually satrt on the radio and then officially released. Cloverfield Monsta (talk) 00:34, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is often on the radio, and the video is often on the music channels. The music video is also currently available on Music On Demand on cable TV, and features in the 'Hits' playlist on the same service. IainUK (talk) 15:07, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Sheet music and audio request
A audio and sheet music is requested. Cloverfield Monsta (talk) 00:44, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the late reply. As far as I know, there is currently no sheet music avaliable for this song. If I happen to find some, I will let you know ASAP! • вяαdcяo  chat  06:19, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

music sample
Just noted that the sample of Eh, Eh fails WP:SAMPLE. Sample for a song long about 3minutes must be long only 18seconds and not 30 --♫Smanu! 15:33, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing it our. Will let teh editor know. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 03:48, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I have now uploaded a version that complying with WP:SAMPLE that is 18 seconds of length. • вяαdcяo  chat  06:58, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Release
Should the release date for the article in the infobox be the date of when the product was first avaliable for sale? I noticed that the radio date is listed. • вяαdcяo chat  10:11, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Template:Infobox Single says that the Released field "should refer to the earliest known date" (no emphasis added), and its radio release appears to be the earliest official release. POKERdance talk/ contribs 10:15, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


 * A radio release is never an official release since radio chooses to airplay the song at their own convenient time, irrespective of the time set by the recording company. Sometimes it can be about a month before the radio add-date, sometimes after two months as was the case with Just Dance which received its forst spin at CHR-pop after two months. Hence best earliest known date should be the one available for sale. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 08:40, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure you can just put both dates in. Tikkuy (talk) 09:09, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * There's no point in putting both the dates as we already have the release history table, there the formats and all the dates can be listed. Adding a number of dates in the infobox will elongate it further. We try to keep it as small as possible. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 09:16, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand that, but in a lot of articles both dates are mentioned in the infobox. If it comes down to the sales date and the release date, I would put both. Tikkuy (talk) 09:21, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * i know. But what maybe suitable for those articles may not be for this one. Since the infobox already touches the first para, I just checked with adding another date below it in a 640x480 resolution screen. The infobox overlapped with the first section drastically. Also there are tons of articles where this problem of visually breaking the article exists. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 09:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I don't think it's a huge deal, really. If somebody's that interested they can check the 'Release dates' section. I was just letting you know my opinion. :) Tikkuy (talk) 09:39, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

wrong single cover
why is the remix cover the cover on the article. it should be the actual single cover that is there. remix covers are never used inplace of the single cover--58.161.68.159 (talk) 03:10, 20 February 2010 (UTC)


 * That isn't the remix cover. That's the french cover. If it was the remix cover, it would say Remixes on it. This is the remix cover: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6lV5hzNR1fU/SazgxNobuNI/AAAAAAAADWo/pI8dc6KX8LE/s400/gaga+hehe+remix.jpeg No where on the cover on the article says remix on it. The cover originally posted was the Australian cover and the cover that was recently posted was the French cover, which is more attractive and should be kept. --Sdoo493 (talk) 18:07, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


 * No, we dont add covers because they are attractive. The one added is the Australian single cover and that's how it should be considering Oceania was the main area of its release. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 04:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Not Released in US
Would it be possible (for someone who knows) to write a piece about the decision taken not to release this track in the UK, and more significantly the US, being it is her home town, and she released the track in other countries. IainUK (talk) 15:04, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * She did release this in other countries as the third single instead of "LoveGame". It was once speculated that the reason she did this was because the "LoveGame" music video was banned, so she pulled the single entirely, and released "Eh, Eh" in it's place, but this was not the case, since "Eh, Eh" had already been getting airplay before the "LoveGame" video premiered. --Sdoo493 (talk) 19:03, February 2010 (UTC)


 * Wasn't just the LoveGame video, but the suggestive lyrics also. I don't think we can add anything to this article as we don't appear to have sources to verify anything. SunCreator (talk) 01:01, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * it was probably only initially released in australia and new zealand as it was their summer and it is a summery track and the record company that would make it more successful. it was released as a promo single in the uk to radio stations and music channels, but didnt manage to chart. Mister sparky (talk) 04:23, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Video screencap up for deletion
The video screen capture from this article is up for deletion as failing WP:NFCC #8. Please see Files_for_deletion/2014_November_19 for details. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:44, 20 November 2014 (UTC)