Talk:Eight Elders

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How can 8 breathless men were named 8 Immortals？ Really strange. Ksyrie 19:41, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

The article states that the term refers to two different groups, but then doesn't distinguish between them. It seems to be about the same group of men that have different names in Chinese and English. The article needs cleanup (and sourcing, since I don't know what's accurate from looking at it). Calbaer 20:12, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


 * No,you are misguided,the Eight Immortals and the Eight Elders are the same group.The Eight Immortals are the invetion by some english-speaking journalist,while Eight Elders are the more official or used name.--Ksyrie 00:04, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Bloomberg map
Bloomberg News made a map of the descendants of the Eight Elders, from which we could derive some kind of neat diagram, or maybe a simple family tree. Or this information could go into Princelings, if that's more appropriate. Shrigley (talk) 03:15, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Is the composition certain?
From 2003 to 2007 this article listed seven members and stated there was disagreement as to the identity of the eighth.Then somebody picked an eighth and deleted all mention of the alternatives.Do all sources agree on this particular eight?...see for example "Wan Li,Reformer and last of China's Eight Immortals,Dies at 98" (Bloomberg).

I note that Song Ping and Zhang Jingfu have lived longer than any of them,though not been quite as powerful.12.144.5.2 (talk) 01:42, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Membership according to various authors
A line by Vivian Wu in SCMP helps clear up a bit of the membership confusion:

DTM (talk) 08:21, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

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