Talk:Eiichiro Oda/Archive 1

Removal of templates
Comics region Anime and manga

Is there any template removal rationale like too broad in any wiki guideline that you can refer. Oda is a mangaka, that draws manga (comic) both templates are related. Kasaalan (talk) 22:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, these navigational boxes are somewhat relevant to Oda, but so are the following:

Human Eukaryota Japan Earth Milky Way
 * Where would you draw the line? Good raise  23:26, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Japan topics
 * Japan administrative areas template is irrelevant, yet the Japan template I provided also might be added if you like to add Japan that much.
 * I draw the line where there is direct relevancy.
 * Oda is a Japanese mangaka, which means he draws Japan manga comics. So it is not hard to tell comics around the world or anime and manga templates are relevant. Can you provide any guideline that justifies your removal or not. Kasaalan (talk) 07:07, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I can: WP:CONSENSUS. It's even a policy. - Look. I don't know if there's a guideline regulating these things, but common practice seems to be to add these boxes to articles they link to. One Piece links to Eiichirō Oda. That's a simple fact. If Anime and manga is directly relevant to him because he creates manga, then Milky Way is directly relevant to him as well because he lives in it. Good raise  10:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually no, you too live in Universe, you also may eat Mexican food like any other human, they are no distinctions. Yet not anyone can create manga or draw comics professionally. You are using a false logic. Kasaalan (talk) 11:27, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The propose of nav templates is to aid readers in navigating between articles that are part of a larger series. Since Eiichirō Oda is not part of the anime and manga article series, his article should not include the nav template. --Farix (Talk) 14:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism
Article is currently being vandalized by users of 4chan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.162.85.76 (talk) 03:54, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * There is a rumour, that he died in the recent earthquakes in Japan. It may or may not be vandalism... we have to wait for actual sources about it. --drhlajos (talk) 12:15, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Justification for One Piece being the best-selling comic series of all time
I just changed the top section of this article to say One Piece is the best selling comic series of all time from the best selling manga series, because it is.

One Piece has sold over 360 million volumes, not counting magazine sales. Google any list of "top selling comic series" and you'll get lists saying One Piece is #4, with #3 being Spider-Man, #2 being Batman, and #1 being Superman.

This is false equivalency.

Let's go back to 2015 before The Force Awakens came out. Avatar was the highest-grossing movie, but the Star Wars series of 6 films made more than Avatar. Yet saying Star Wars made more than Avatar would be wrong if you were saying Star Wars is one movie, because Star Wars is a series, and Avatar is a single movie.

One Piece is a single series. However, Spider-Man, Batman, and Superman on these comic sales lists are not Spider-Man, Batman, or Superman series. They are franchises. Superman's been in 11 series as a main player. It is inaccurate to add the sales of 11 series against ONE series, One Piece. Action Comics and the New 52 are different series within the same franchise.

What an internet ranking might look like:

1. Superman 2. Batman 3. Spider-Man 4. One Piece 5. X-Men 6. Captain America 7. Tintin 8. Dragon Ball 9. The Phantom Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, X-Men and Captain America are not technically comic book series. They are comic book franchises made of tens of individual, free-standing series and, all too often, conflicting, unrelated storylines. For illustrative purposes: "Superman." Action Comics and The New 52 are two entirely separate series, although they both include Superman. Also, Superman does not star in most of the series he appears in. The best-selling comic series of all time is the manga One Piece. Every one of the 800+ and counting issues of One Piece is written by one person, and every issue is part of the same single storyline. One Piece is published as a unified series, vs. the multiple series Superman is published in. Thus, One Piece is a series. The Guinness Book of World Records recognizes One Piece as the series with most copies printed. Dragon Ball should be above Tintin (a series, as it is a single title). Golgo 13 has sold more than Dragon Ball, yet is also not on this list. Naruto, Black Jack, and Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kōen-mae Hashutsujo are all well above The Phantom (a series, as it is a single title) in sales. The actual top 9 best selling comic series of all time are: 1. One Piece 2. Golgo 13 3. Dragon Ball 4. Naruto 5. Tintin 6. Black Jack 7. Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kōen-mae 8. Case Closed (tie) 8. The Phantom (tie) Seven of nine on this list are manga, all single titles written by one individual under the same publishing name. The only non-manga on this list are Tintin and The Phantom. No DC or Marvel series make the list. It's absolutely crazy to compare DC and Marvel to publishers like Shueisha and Shogakukan. Shueisha's magazine Weekly Shonen Jump's (in which One Piece runs) WEEKLY circulation is 2.4 million, a number that does not factor into sales figures. (For comparison: Vogue's (monthly) circulation is less than 1.3 million; The New York Times' (daily) circulation is less than 1.4 million.) There are several other manga magazines with huge circulation figures like these - again, circulation which does not factor into sales. The highest-selling single volume of One Piece, Volume 61, sold 3,382,588 copies when it was published in 2011. That is about 3.4 million copies. The highest-selling single issue of an American comic in the past decade, DC's New 52 launch Justice League #1, has sold 360,000 copies, less than 11% of Volume 61 of One Piece's sales. These manga figures inaccurately reflect the popularity of manga, as overseas readers pirate weekly releases by the hundreds of thousands, if not millions. Scanlation-type comic readers for American comics do not exist, and the American comics pirating industry is extremely small - a good thing. In Japan, Shueisha's profits have been steadily declining even as anime and manga become more popular than ever. At its peak, Weekly Shonen Jump had a weekly circulation of over 6 MILLION.

Just to give a sense of how massively popular manga is compared to western comics. And manga is a form of comic, so One Piece is the best-selling comic.

I am NOT a One Piece fan. I do not read One Piece or watch it. I am not biased in favor of One Piece, but can recognize it because it's too overwhelmingly popular to not recognize.

WIERDGREENMAN, Thane of Cawdor THE CAKE IS A LIE (talk) 23:11, 30 January 2016 (UTC)


 * This is entirely original research and you have not provided a source to support the claim that One Piece is "the best-selling comic series of all time". However, the "best-selling manga series of all time" claim is supported by numerous citations detailing its record breaking sales across multiple manga volumes. However, these figures are not compared other comic sales elsewhere around the world. —Farix (t &#124; c) 18:15, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello
Hello. Could someone please add a photo to Eiichiro Oda's article? I'm unable to do it myself. I suggest this photo to be used: http://media.ngaynay.vn/thumb_x500x/Uploaded/thutrang/2014_10_12/Tac_gia_Oda.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agnos890 (talk • contribs) 22:22, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

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I request for a profile picture to be added to this Wikipedia article. I recommend this one: https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/eiichiro_oda_4.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.235.147.210 (talk) 13:52, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

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Adding a profile picture
Hi everyone. I suggest adding a profile picture to this article. I suggest this one: https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/eiichiro_oda_4.png Could someone please do this? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.1.220.13 (talk) 13:42, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

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 * Hi, I answered on your talk page. Netherzone (talk) 16:53, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

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Eiichiro Oda 's Support for convicted child porn authors
This is being edited out despite multiple reliable sources from CBR animenewsnetwork animefeminist linked.

This is noteworthy and deserves its own section. LoreVogel1995 (talk) 22:34, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * See Talk:One Piece, where this has been resolved. Link20XX (talk) 23:56, 5 September 2023 (UTC)