Talk:Ejaculatory prayer

Sources?
"In grammar, an ejaculation is an utterance that expresses a feeling outside of the normal language structure. It is often, but not always, an exclamation, most often consisting of a single word, either an interjection or a profanity or both."

The etymology suggests that the words ejactulation and ejection mean "to hurl". Which indicate that it is necessarily an exclamation. An exclamation meaning "to hurl with words". I can also find nothing indicating that it is expressing a feeling outside of established language. I'm not saying your wrong, I would just like to know your sources. Indeed, I really like this use of the term and intend to use it in this fashion myself. There are not alot of words to express expression beyond words :). And to think that the physical act of ejactulation could be construed as an expression beyond words is both ironically poetic and hilariously precise.

--User:Kdglmo69.165.154.169 (talk) 23:20, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

From user talk:Andrewa
Ejaculation (grammar) has "both in English" seemingly modifying nothing. You are the only editor of the page so I wanted to ask you what that meant. Am I just being dense? Qaz ( talk ) 01:46, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Upon reading it again, I see that you meant both in English to apply to the examples you gave. However this is an English encyclopedia so that I would think would be assumed. Also, the way it was worded was confusing so I removed it. I hope you do not take offense. I like the intro you wrote though. I can/will put up some examples if you choose not to but I thought I would give you first crack at it. Qaz  ( talk ) 02:28, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

From user talk:Qaz:
Thanks for the comments on my user talk page. I certainly don't take offense! I'm delighted someone else is interested in working on the article. See User:Andrewa/creed.

However, let me explain what I meant by saying "in English". These are (were) both examples taken from English. It isn't assumed that just because this is English Wikipedia that everything we talk about will also be English, far from it, we have an article on the German for example, and one of the examples in the verb article is taken from Spanish or Portuguese, unfortunately it doesn't say which!

I think that the verb article would be improved a great deal if more actual examples from other languages were given, this has been the custom in most linguistics books I have seen.

Similarly, we should add examples from several languages to the article on ejaculations, IMO. The French ben (pronounced as a very short postnasalised bah) is the best example I can think of outside of English. I can't see that the English examples shouldn't stay too, but if you found them confusing then ipso facto they were. See if you can do better. Andrewa 03:09, 15 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I agree wholeheartedly about not everything having to be about English even though it is in English. It was the sentence structure more than anything that confused me. It seemed to be a comment out of nowhere just saying that yes, this is English. With more context it would be fine and as you point out, provide an improvement. Qaz  ( talk ) 04:31, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Following those comments
In the absence of any further action, I have restored the examples, and restated them in point form to make it even more obvious what is meant. Andrewa 06:01, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Delete, move to Wiktionary
I think this article (or its content) belongs on Wiktionary. --Una Smith (talk) 18:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Praise the Lord?
That's a perfectly ordinary sentence, grammatically. How is it an ejaculation? Fishal (talk) 20:18, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Holy ejaculation and the virgin birth
Seeing the addition of this hatnote made my day. But seriously, this doesn't belong here, does it? – Uanfala (talk) 17:28, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

"Holy ejaculation" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Holy ejaculation. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 9 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 22:20, 9 October 2021 (UTC)