Talk:El Chavo del Ocho

September, 2005 rewrite

 * I started a major rewrite of the article. I've already moved some things around and added an infobox and external links. I plan to add detailed information about all major characters and about the history of the show. Suggestions, corrections and other comments are welcome. (By the way, can this show be considered a sitcom, or is the term 'sitcom' appropriate only for US and UK-based comedy shows?) SilentMan 05:25, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I think it can be considered a sitcom since it has all the characteristics of an American Comedy Sitcom.
 * Also, can you add pics of each of the main chracters on your next update?
 * -Thanks. 18:11, 9 November 2005 User:171.161.224.10

MISSPELLING
It's Quico not "Kiko"... I could just change this article but the mistake is seen elsewhere... How can I change all the mistaken instances of this?--Herle King 21:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't know if Wikipedia has a different way to do this, but you can always edit the article, select all the text (CTRL-A), copy it and paste it into a Word document (or any other Word processor), and then use the Find-Replace tool in that word processor. Then copy all the text again from Word back to the article and Save it. Thief12 21:58, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Repetitive gags?
The article says that critics argue that "The gags are repetitive, and there are few new situations. Viewers are able to predict outcomes and lines by various characters.". Seinfield, Friends and other sitcoms are just like that. This is not a valid argument. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.120.145.203 (talk) 05:00, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Repetitive gags was part of the allure of the program. I think the arguments refers to repetition, or recycling of stories, mentioned elsewhere here. Chespirito once declared that he re-shot the same stories several times because he was sure that he had a new audience each time. He probably was unaware of the cult following he had and how memorable some episodes were for the audience and also that the program would get syndicated in the future.--Jcnegron (talk) 10:50, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

blahblahblah
The "Chavo del Ocho" will never be the story of a poor child, its the story of a journey, a journey of life, where hapiness comes in simpler ways, like the company of your friends, or a ham sandwich, el Chavo del Ocho remins us all of the sweetness of being a kid, of how hard life is for all of us, but it reminds us mainly that the good things in life could be the simple fact of remining together, with your "vecindad" naighborhood.

I was born in latin America, and the influence of el chavo del ocho was so big that i belived he existed, somewhere a poor kid living in a barrel, and i still believe there is a kid like el chavo somewhere.
 * There's an interesting anecdote regarding Chespirito and El Chavo, Chespirito once traveled (i forgot where to) and a kid recognized him and approached him, but instead of asking for an autograph or anything, the kid gave him a few coins so he could buy his Torta de Jamón. Chespirito, touched bye the kind gesture, kept the coins and said thanks to the kid so not to ruin his impression of El Chavo being a real person.Vicco Lizcano 23:42, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Main Theme Music
I think the Intro Music is Beethovens Turkish March. 98% sure though, it's remixed with zany sounds. Should this be in the article? I don't see THAT many mentions of theme music on TV show articles. I wonder why. . ..

--70.38.103.59 05:17, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I found out by accident listening to some music by Beethoven and to my surprise I recognized the theme from El Chavo. I'm not sure tough if it's the March you mention. Vicco Lizcano 23:38, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Brazilian References
What's the purpose, if any, of including references to ONLY the Brazilian version of the show (like names, etc.) if the article already says that the show is the most translated in television? Why not also include references to any other language the show has been translated to? That would be too unnecessary, as Brazilian users could always click on the "Portuguese" link of the article (if it's available, of course). Either way, such references are IMO unnecessary. Thief12 17:15, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

The thing is, "Chavez" (How El Chavo is called in Brazil) is HUGELY popular in Brazil, you don't have idea. But one of the reasons the show is so popular is that in the beggining, in the 80"s, the show was dubbed in a way that made appear that the show was brazilian. The dubbing gave ir a very "local " flavor - so I think is important to note that in the article, because it wasn't a simples case of dubbing.

And Brazil is probably the country where the show is most famous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.236.85.206 (talk) 03:46, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Cast
I deleted the cast section because: 1.- It was all wrong, givin names that don't correspond to the actors and 2.- There's already a mention of the cast together with the characters (aptly named Characters and cast).

This is what I deleted:

Cast
-   - ===1972===   -    - *El Chavo - Welingson Walkman - *Quico - John Brown - *Chilindrina - Nova Morita - *Don Ramon(Don Ramón) - Danny Selferyt - *Doña Florinda - Nova Morita - *Girafles Teacher(Professor Jirafales) - Larry Down - *Mr. Belly(Señor Barriga) - Azzastown Digit - *Ñoño - Meeskly Mammster Vicco Lizcano 17:45, 2 February 2007 (UTC) (Tell me where I'm wrong)

Animated Series
Regardig: "In this animated series, the character of "La Chilindrina" doesn't appear for any well-known reason.", we may find (without references) in Wikipedia (Pt): According to the show "La Historia Detras del Mito", The Chilindrina doesnt't appear on the animated series due to the constant battle between Roberto Gomez Bolaños and Maria Antonieta de las Nieves for the author rights of the character. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh62dEyUdNc&feature=related —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elialcala (talk • contribs) 16:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

"Ausência de Chiquinha no desenho animado A personagem Chiquinha não aparece, pois, María Antonieta de las Nieves, a intérprete original da Chiquinha e Dona Neves detém os direitos acerca dos personagens e graças a isso houve alguns desentendimentos com Roberto Gómez Bolaños. Porém, o site oficial de Chaves diz que a personagem estreará na série animada na segunda temporada."

Which means (aprox.): The rights over the character "La Chilindrina" is owned by María Antonieta de las Nieves.

We can also find in the English version the information about María Antonieta de las Nieves:

"In a rather strange turn, María Antonieta de las Nieves was able to win a legal battle over Chespirito in 2003, one that gives her permission to act as La Chilindrina in public whenever she wants to, and grants her rights over the character she played. Chespirito owns the rights to most of the characters..."

I did't edit the subject cause I didn't find any good references, my english is somewhat poor and I'm too lazy to look for good references...

Repeated links... again....
User 200.122.156.54 keeps adding links to a forum and a blog of a "Chavo del 8" website, I don't see a problem with the site in question, but the links are redundant because they all come from the same site. I left a simple link to www.chavodel8whatever.com (can't remember the site) and deleted the previous 2 entries, but the same user put them back again. Comments, Suggestions? I know I'm right on deleting them, but this cycle delete-upload makes me kinda tired.

From the External Links page on Wiki: Links normally to be avoided Except for a link to a page that is the subject of the article or an official page of the article subject—and not prohibited by restrictions on linking—one should avoid: I'm deleting them again. Vicco Lizcano 22:03, 29 March 2007 (UTC) (Tell me where I'm wrong)
 * 1) Any site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article.
 * 2) Any site that misleads the reader by use of factually inaccurate material or unverifiable research. See Attribution.
 * 3) Links mainly intended to promote a website.
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 * 5) Links to sites with objectionable amounts of advertising.
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 * 9) Links to search engine and aggregated results pages.
 * 10) Links to social networking sites (such as MySpace), discussion forums or USENET.
 * 11) Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority.
 * 12) Links to open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors.
 * 13) Sites that are only indirectly related to the article's subject: the link should be directly related to the subject of the article. A general site that has information about a variety of subjects should usually not be linked to from an article on a more specific subject. Similarly, a website on a specific subject should usually not be linked to an article about a general subject. If a section of a general website is devoted to the subject of the article, and meets the other criteria for linking, then that part of the site could be deep-linked.
 * Another point: Wikipedia is not a collection of links. Vicco Lizcano 22:15, 29 March 2007 (UTC) (Tell me where I'm wrong)

very well written article...frankly I was surprised at the well interpreted descriptions especially the "chusma"

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Chavo, usage
The slang word "chavo" is not exclusive to Mexico. It is used in Spain and various Latin American countries. Ateo 20:45, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

"Repeated" episodes
We should make a section about the episodes re-written and re-shot. The article only briefly mentions this, but this was an important issue. This made the show's popularity to go down, and everybody noted that they were doing this. This has to be in the article. Wanna Know My Name? Later 17:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

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US dub
I question the entire cast list and claims that an English-language version exists. It definitely didn't air over the US Cartoon Network in November 2007, and isn't listed on the website or in any television listings (but it has aired over Cartoon Network in Brazil, it seems, which may be the source of the whole thing). Any references to such a thing happening exist only on Wikipedia (or Wikipedia mirrors), nothing shows up for The Kid Animated Series (and such a literal translation seems unlikely anyway), and the cast lists consists of voices from SpongeBob SquarePants and The Powerpuff Girls. Nothing shows up on IMDb for it. It was all added by an anonymous user, to boot. I'm planning to remove this whole section, and recommend that if anyone wants to re-add it, that they find some reliable source or evidence first. -- 01:51, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * And an anonymous user with a floating IP keeps making the same changes, and isn't even consistent (on some voice actor pages, he claims different actors dubbed certain roles). By now his list is fairly standard, but all nonsense, with absolutely no source for it outside of his own edits and mirrors of those versions of the page. If this keeps up, I think applying for semi-protection is in order. -- Aleal (talk) 21:59, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

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Requested move
El Chavo (TV series) → El Chavo — El Chavo currently redirects here. El Chavo (disambiguation) makes it clear that this is the most notable use of the term. — The Man in Question (in question)  07:31, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Battle over the picture
Since there seems to be a slow edit war over Image:El Chavo Cast.jpg perhaps we should discuss it here. I added it to the article on request at WP:IFU and cannot see what is wrong with it, can the remover please say why the picture should not be here? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:48, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Chilindrina departure and Seasons
The section about Broadcast History mentions "seasons". There were no seasons in most of the Mexican TV shows in the 70's and 80's. So the show was produced uninterrupted all year long from the 70's to the 80's. Also there were no reruns at all. That's the reason why many stories were simply reshot.

Also this section mentions the departure of Maria Antonieta de las Nieves in 1973-1974 due to her new born baby, but she actually went to work on another TV Show, "Pampa Pipipitzin", on the state owned competing network Channel 13. She returned to the program in 1975.

✅ EL CHAVO RAMMSTEIN CANTA AMERIKA (talk) 17:04, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Quico
Can't you find a photo with Quico? Without him the neigborhood seems strange. Chusma, chusma, chusma! :-) --E4024 (talk) 14:50, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

What is the show about?
This article seems lacking severely - it doesn't even give a synopsis of the show, or a description of the characters upfront, people not knowing what the show is about have to read a history of how many episodes it has, etc... Can someone add a description of the show, early on in the entry? It's written for people who know it well. The section "Production and Setting" sort of does it but not really and it comes very late in the entry.Richard ruffian (talk) 02:41, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

English dub?
There's a edit that claims there is supposed to be a English dub released today by Grupo Chespirito but there is no citation and I haven't been able to find anything relating to it on any social media and Grupo Chespirito website. I even contacted some of the supposed voice actors agents but also had no answer lol 73.54.173.116 (talk) 08:11, 31 July 2022 (UTC)