Talk:Elbe Germanic

Merger of Elbe Germanic peoples with Elbe Germanic
I've just reverted the recent merger of these two articles and the conversion of the former to a redirect to this one for two reasons. First, it should really have followed the WP:MERGE process to allow editors to comment. Second, it seems to conflate an actual tribe, called the Irminones by Pliny and Tacitus (but now apparently referred to as the Elbe Germanic peoples), with a recent theory about linguistics which talks about an Elbe Germanic language. However, historians disagree about whether the latter existed and, if it did, whether it was spoken by the eponymous people group. This was hotly debated here and the outcome was to keep the articles based on the polychotomy introduced by Maurer and Kuhn and the articles based on the main (sub)groups of Germanic peoples, mentioned by Pliny and Tacitus, as separate. I wonder if it would help if there were more explanation about this in the various article ledes as it is potentially confusing. Bermicourt (talk) 11:40, 3 July 2018 (UTC)