Talk:Eleanor of England, Countess of Bar

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http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminatedmanuscripts/ILLUMIN.ASP?Size=mid&IllID=49988 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.136.129.2 (talk) 17:48, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Dubious Welsh descendants
The Eleanor who married Llewellyn ap Owain can be found mentioned in Victorian sources, as an ancestress of Owain Glyndwr and Owen Tudor, but this link is considered dubious in more recent sources. See Alison Weir's Britain's Royal Families, page 82, which doubts the younger Eleanor existed. Panton doesn't mention any descendants beyond the younger Eleanor and doesn't seem to have picked up on that claim's dubiousness. If this content is to be included then we need either (1) more solid sourcing, or (2) to include Weir's skepticism. DrKay (talk) 16:53, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * This used to be in the article (cited to Weir): . It was removed in stages: I'm fine with either of the suggestions above, or with its removal. Celia Homeford (talk) 13:02, 7 June 2023 (UTC)