Talk:Electoral system of Australia

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Newspoll in results table
Is there any good reason why the results table since 1910 includes Newspoll polls from 1993 onwards? Timrollpickering (talk) 18:28, 2 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Since none has come forward I'll remove the entries. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:51, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I propose merging Political groups (Australia) into Electoral system of Australia. The source article is short, an orphan, poorly written, lacks citations, and, as of 2013, outdated. The pre-2013 process described in the source article is described more fully in the destination article, specifically.

as you have contributed to one of these articles. – ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 03:23, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * @ClaudineChionh: thanks for the ping, but I don't know enough about the topic to form a view on the proposed merger.
 * However, I do see that both pages cover this issue with poorly-written text and indequate or no refs. So I suggest that before any merging is considered, both articles need the attention of an expert in the topic.   Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 03:38, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for raising this proposal. While I agree that much needs to be done with both articles, I don't think merging as such is the best approach. The purpose of Electoral system of Australia appears to be to give a broad overview of various features. Political groups however has an extremely narrow focus - it covers groups that are too small to form a micro party. In looking at the the article, I am not sure that there is anything worth saving - there has only been one substantial edit, which was the final contribution by that editor, back in 2013. The source listed (archived) is not a discussion of these minor groups, but merely an attempt to unravel where the preference flows for minor parties went. Between all of the groups listed, they got a total of 0.12% of the votes at the 2013 election. I had a short look for reliable sources but came up empty - there has been a lot written about preference harvesting, including the infamous NSW tablecloth ballot from 1999 (picture) but so far as I have been able to find that's about micro parties & these unnamed groups. I don't see how it meets any notability guideline. In short I am thinking political groups should be a redirect as alternative to deletion (WP:ATD-R). --Find bruce (talk) 05:17, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * The political groups page seems to be trying to make something substantial out of the fact that some of the candidates in elections don't have a party name on the ballot paper. The problem is such candidates can be anything from a small party that hasn't managed to get the name registered (the recent federal changes tripling the number of members required will potential push more candidacies into this position; some of the states have awkward hurdles and deadlines that impede new parties) to an independent campaigner who has found a family member or friend to help them meet the requirements for an above the line voting square. Ultimately political groups is probably best deleted as a confused synthesis. Articles on Group voting ticket, party registration and independents in Australia cover the basics. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:54, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks It looks like a blank-and-redirect would make more sense than a merge... but both Electoral system of Australia and Group voting ticket may need some attention first. ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 06:32, 16 November 2021 (UTC)