Talk:Electronic design automation

Who owns CADSTAR
Who owns CADSTAR?--Light current 21:52, 25 February 2006 (UTC)


 * It's a product of Zuken Solutions, who I just made a web page for. The Cadstar page should link to Zuken Solutions.   LouScheffer 21:58, 25 February 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, I added the refernce to the Cadstar page. LouScheffer 22:02, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Strange. I thought it was a RACAL product!--Light current 22:18, 25 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Consider adding Aldec to the list of companies? They are a prominent tool when it comes to FPGA design.

Sure, go ahead and add them. FPGA design is certainly EDA. LouScheffer 00:37, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

This usage probably originates...
Either it originates, or it doesn't. We shouldn't make vague statements like this. Either remove the "probably" or the whole sentence. 84.190.12.162 20:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

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 * OK, I added a fair-use rationale. LouScheffer (talk) 03:56, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

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Software neutral screen-shots
It should be possible to adopt a more neutral set of screen-shots for this article. The ones in use here are basically the same as those on the Kicad article, and it would seem fair to offer representation to other software, both open-source and commercial.

Alternatively, would it be possible to convey the concepts involved, or show the screen-shots without citing specific software. We wouldn't necessarily need to show the entire screen to convey the desired concepts, thereby cutting down this page's potential use as advertising space.

For full disclosure, I'm a gEDA developer (one of many open-source EDA suites), and am concerned that this root article should remain neutral (or give fair representation to all packages). It would be more appropriate to link to the software specific articles for gEDA, Kicad and others which would of course be free to promote that software via fully captioned screen-shots.

Pcjc2 (talk) 15:30, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Addition of EeSof division of Agilent to Market Capital table
How was the Market cap figure for EeSof division of Agilent calculated? Is this number publicly available, and if so where? Otherwise I it is better to drop it from the Market Cap table and reference it only with a comment. 149.117.23.28 (talk) 10:45, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Lengauer 1990, not 1997
I happen to be doing a research paper using Lengauer's book right now, and there is definitely no edition published in 1997. It's 1990. I'm going to change it right now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.118.178.62 (talk) 05:30, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Inaccurate info. regarding early CAD systems for IC design
With Regard to: 1981 marks the beginning of EDA as an industry. For many years, the larger electronic companies, such as Hewlett Packard, Tektronix, and Intel, had pursued EDA internally. In 1981, managers and developers spun out of these companies to concentrate on EDA as a business. Daisy Systems, Mentor Graphics, and Valid Logic Systems were all founded around this time, and collectively referred to as DMV.

The beginning of EDA preceeded 1981 by a few years. IC Design CAD systems were available in the late 70's from Applicon (870/860), Calma (GDS 1) and Computervision (I and II). I personally worked for Applicon on the IC design system named "860" - PDP-11 based - starting in 1979. SO 1981 was a 2nd generation EDA era - not the beginning by any means. And Intel was our biggest customer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.209.97 (talk) 07:19, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Abbr. expansion?
After introduction of the abbreviation, EDA, it is used throughout. Shouldn't EDA be expanded (as in most other Wikipedia articles)? --Mortense (talk) 10:21, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
 * It only needs to be expanded on the first use, with the abbreviation after it in parentheses. After that the abbreviation can be used on its own. Normally the abbreviation is used for any subsequent mention. The relevant MoS entries are WP:ACRO and Manual of Style#Acronyms.
 * he used electronic design automation (EDA) software to design the schematic and the layout of the circuit board, at the first mention of electronic design automation; and
 * he exported the finished design from the EDA software in Gerber format ready for manufacturing, at a subsequent mention.
 * I'd add that if an article has many lengthy sections you can give a definition again (on the principle that a reader might have forgotten what a particular acronym stands for by the time he's read that far down). Whether and when to do so is a matter of editorial judgement. --91.125.29.135 (talk) 20:14, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

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Flagged for copyedit
This article is not bad for basic coverage, but the language is loose and informal, and sometimes strays into vague, cryptic, or erratic. I believe if the language was more crisp, the structure would soon also become more coherent.

I was blowing off the many small problems until I reached this fragment:

Formal verification, also model checking: attempts to prove, by mathematical methods, that the system has certain desired properties, and that certain undesired effects (such as deadlock) cannot occur.

With a "certain" amount of additional effort, that nasty word could be eliminated here.

Note that I flout the policy about flag and run, so I'm in a state of sin here, and anyone who wishes to invoke policy can remove the flag on that basis, no questions asked.

But this article does need a major copyedit, whether I stick around, or not. &mdash; MaxEnt 12:33, 5 September 2020 (UTC)