Talk:Elevenses

Crib
In Cornwall (the remote south-west corner of the British Isles) the mid morning snack break was referred to as "Crib"

I think that hobbits eat elevenses AND second breakfast, but don't have the books on hand to check. Anyone else?

In movie #1, Pippin says to Aragorn (as they set out traveling with him), "What about second breakfast? Elevenses? Luncheon? Afternoon tea? Dinner? Supper?". I don't know about the books, though.65.94.23.134 22:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * I definitely remember it that way from the books and have changed the article to reflect this. --Laura Scudder | Talk 20:29, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

the books mention second meals whenever they can get them, but the word "elevenses" almost certainly never appears in the book. --anonymous

The only mention of "elevenses" is in Chapter 1 "A Long-expected Party" of The Fellowship of the Ring, with the text "At other times there were merely lots of people eating and drinking&mdash;continuously from elevenses until six-thirty, when the fireworks started." While elevenses is most certainly a British term (originating in the 19th century) for a light mid-morning meal, from the context in which Tolkien uses it one could speculate that it was intended to be "eleven" (i.e., 11am to 6:30pm). Jasoneth 03:34, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Here in Colombia the direct translation ´onces´ is used for a similar concept as between meal snack, although it can be used at any time, not just in the morning.

Other tea times
Popular times for tea in order: morning tea, tea break, elevenses, low tea/afternoon tea, high tea, evening tea. icetea8 (talk) 03:11, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Coffee for elevenses
This article says that choice of foods consumed at elevenses might vary from cakes, pastries or lamingtons or biscuits to "just coffee", but coffee is not a food, it is a drink. Also, the article could make it clearer in the opening section that in the United Kingdom, people might just have a cup of tea or coffee for elevenses (the old tradition has been to have coffee for a morning drink, and tea at around four o'clock in the afternoon for a snack known as "afternoon tea"). ACEOREVIVED (talk) 10:38, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * These issues are fixed now. Ben Finn (talk) 08:59, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Inventor of elevenses could go in the article
The section on afternoon tea in the article Tea_(meal) has the name of the inventor of afternoon tea -  Anna_Russell,_Duchess_of_Bedford. In the same way, if any one knows who invented elevenses, this could go in this article. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 11:01, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Mornos
Exactly what kind of citation would satisfy whoever tagged this para with 'citation needed'? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.53.56.45 (talk) 23:07, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

The usual kind. WTH? If you can't back up a statement with some kind of citation, other than "your Uncle Bob" or "a guy I met once in a pub," in other words, anecdotal, then the statement doesn't belong here. I'd also like to know when this term dates to -- is it current? Historical? What does this mornos consist of? Is it comparable in content to elevenses, the subject of the article. If not, is the coincidence of the time of day enough to justify its inclusion??? If so, why is "coffee break" not included??? Expand and authenticate. Please.
 * I don't know anything about mornos, but IMHO the coincidence of the time of day and the nature of the meal would be enough to demonstrate that 'mornos' is 'elevenses' under a different name. Cf the Swedish and Spanish equivalents, which are not actually called 'elevenses'. ('Coffee break' by contrast could be at any time of day.) Ben Finn (talk) 08:58, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Regional variation: East Frisia
In East Frisia in the north west of Germany, people call it “Elführtje” and they typically drink a strong tea, as explained in https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwischenmahlzeit#Ostfriesland. --194.19.86.146 (talk) 13:39, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Crisps for elevenses
This article says that in the United Kingdom, tea or coffee may be consumed for elevenses, often with a few biscuits. It says that sometimes, toast or chocolate bars may be consumed instead. It could add that sometimes crisps may be consumed. I had some crisps with a cup of coffee this morning (Wednesday 12 May 2021). Since this snack was nearer to 10: 30 a.m., I suppose it was my half past tenses! Rollo August (talk) 14:13, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Germany addition
"halb zehn" is not 10:30 but 9:30. Also, the Knoppers slogan is not really colloquial. It should not be included. 2001:9E8:97B:A800:E52E:8917:2D00:5E75 (talk) 18:56, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Sentence
The sentence "In addition, a party is implied to be particularly lavish in that food was served "continuously from elevenses until six-thirty"." isn't comprehensible enough; it could be written better. JacktheBrown (talk) 11:33, 7 June 2024 (UTC)