Talk:Elfie Caroline Huntington

Feedback from New Page Review process
I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Thank you for creating this article on a woman photographer. It was fascinating to learn about her. I added a section on some of the permanent collections that hold her work.

Netherzone (talk) 22:41, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Hook idea perhaps as ALT 2
ALT 2 ... in the early 20th century, Elfie Caroline Huntington's photographs were gender-bending and broke taboos, while her husband Joseph Daniel Bagley was a portrait photographer?

Sources: Elfie: https://kealakai.byuh.edu/technology-has-shaped-the-role-of-women-in-the-church-from-vessels-of-reproduction-to-creative-individuals-with-voice-mason-allred-said-at-fac-forum and Joseph: https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V26N04_251.pdf

Any thoughts, @NatalieEmma.BYU and @Softlavender? One of the things I find fascinating about her is how courageous she was in breaking from norms during the early 20th C. while her husband's work was more conventional. Netherzone (talk) 05:32, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm less certain of the wording in this hook because the claim is inferred by the hook from a very brief generalization by the professor quoted in that article ("He said she was 'gender-bending and breaking taboos' as well as critiquing cultural ideals.") but he doesn't give any examples of "gender-bending" except for Huntington photographing herself cross-dressing. I don't think one single instance of gender-bending qualifies for the generalization made in this hook. It is true that she critiqued cultural ideals and social roles, but the hook makes an over-generalization not reflected in her full body of work. I suggest looking again at this good synopsis of her work and vision: . --Softlavender (talk) 06:31, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. What I find most fascinating is how fearless and courageous of a woman she was.
 * In rereading the synopsis from Dialogue Journal, these phrases stands out to me: she "had the courage to confront defects in society and in herself" and to go "beyond surface appearances", to expose the "dark side" of life [in Utah].
 * In other words, she was a risk-taking artist, which set her apart from most women photographers of the time, reminding me of someone like Claude Cahun, which is why I suggested "gender-bending and broke taboos". I agree that may be a minority opinion of one professor.
 * I also think if "dark side" is used, it should be added in quotes, since some of her photos simply depicted reality, however abject those realities were perceived within the local culture at the time. Just my too cents... Netherzone (talk) 15:25, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * ALT0 and ALT1 don't use the phrase "dark side". They say "darker side", which doesn't need to be in quotes. Softlavender (talk) 21:47, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You two or other editors can decide on the hook, I contributed minimally to the article (adding the Collections section). I just happened to see the article on NPP, and found her interesting. Netherzone (talk) 15:10, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

"Source"/"Author"
Hi, please avoid anonymously using the words "source" or "author" on Wikipedia. Instead, name the source/document and/or author, and if relevant, the title of the author's work. For a sample attribution statement: "John Doe, in his book Utah Photographers, states that Huntington was redheaded, whereas the Utah historical record Utah Citizens 1900 - 1925 states that she had black hair, but Huntington's biographer Jesse James writes that she was blonde." Softlavender (talk) 00:31, 1 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Okay, I can do that! Thanks! NatalieEmma.BYU (talk) 00:38, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
 * NatalieEmma.BYU please do this now that you are back online. Softlavender (talk) 01:17, 14 June 2023 (UTC)