Talk:Eli Langer

New York Times
Link to NYT article for use as ref.-PetraSchelm (talk) 18:42, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Where artistic merit fails
It is fortunate that Mr. Langer was not convicted by this law 15 years ago. Some people have not escaped it though. Lolicon details the case 3 years ago where someone has been convicted for this. Currently, a jail sentence is mandatory for convictions like this. Artistic merit may be rather hard to argue. It is a sure case of guilty until proven innocent. Tyciol (talk) 05:44, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Concerns around child pornography has led to a re-balancing of where freedom of expression crosses the line into obscenity. There has always been that tension but I think we're now in a time of greater freedom for artist than any other time in history.  Yes there are still areas where artists dare not tread, but if Piss Christ is any indication, there's a lot an artist can do now that would have led to persecution in the past. Mattnad (talk) 21:16, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * We have more freedom in things like religious obscenity maybe, but I think in terms of sexual experssion freedoms are being taken away. Tyciol (talk) 04:41, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Prosecuted images
Does anyone know if Langer has copies of the controversial pictures available for public access on the internet? I think it would be relevant to link to these due to their importance in this article. Tyciol (talk) 07:19, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I found this which includes descriptions of some of the images. I'm not sure if this is a good source though. Pertaining to Langer it mentions "Eli Langer painted depictions of a young boy being sodomized by an older man, "a naked girl straddling the neck of an adult and a very erect man who lies on the bed" (Kate Taylor, 1994), and interpretations of the deaths of Leslie Mahaffy and Kristen French. The gallery showing his work announced his paintings by stating that Langer was exploring the phenomenon of intimacy where it exists without the compensation of social or cultural consent.". The article is currently very vague about what is depicted, so if it is possible to more poignantly verify the topic of controversy it would more extensively cover the issue. Tyciol (talk) 05:49, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

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