Talk:EliteXC: Heat

I added to the people listed under the popular fighters for the card at the top: Jake Shields, Gina Carano, Ken Shamrock & Kimbo Slice. Are the big names that any hardcore - "bandwagon" MMA fan are wanting to see on this card. EHDI5YS 16:20, 26 August 2008

GOCE copyedit request

 * [...] but the fight was overshadowed by accusations that Petruzelli had been offered a payment by EliteXC's promoters to not fight Slice on the ground. Is "fighting on the ground" common lingo for MMA? I understand that it's supposed to mean fighting not while standing, but is there a formal, official phrase for this? Not a biggie otherwise. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:39, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes that's right.  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 04:57, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Leaving as is as this seems to be the accepted lingo. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:27, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The show also included a co-promoted heavyweight bout with Affliction [...] Wikilink removed. From what I'm reading, Affliction is another promoter/MMA sponsor? Was Arlovski part of Affliction? — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:39, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, Affliction at the time also ran an MMA promotion Affliction Entertainment which Arlovski was a part of  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 04:57, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. I edited the link text and retargeted it to Affliction Entertainment instead, as it seems more relevant and the anchor doesn't exist anymore on Affliction Clothing. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:27, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Dana White, the promoter of the rival Ultimate Fighting Championship, called it fight tampering at the event [...] Wikilinks removed. The sources appear to say that she said that after the fact; is that correct? — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:39, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * That's right, Dana White did say it afterwards. By the way Dana White is a Man.  The C of E  God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 04:57, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Now that's just embarrassing. It's Michael Hyatt all over again! — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:27, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * However Slice refused the change to Frank Shamrock, and the latter claimed he had been drinking heavily the night before. Already edited. Maybe add in that he mentioned he was drinking so that he would go easy on Slice? — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:39, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think that's why he was drinking, he didn't know he might have to volunteer himself to fight the night before.  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 04:57, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I think it depends on whether drinking was significant enough to affect Shaw's decision. From what I read from the source, the drinking seems to be a tangent to throwing the match in Slice's favour, but ultimately it was that the corporate side [thought] that [Frank fighting] was just too weird. It seems like it'd make more sense to mention that instead of drinking. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:27, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Why not include both then?  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 10:28, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Because drinking wasn't the main point. The way I read it it was thrown out as an "oh by the way, Kimbo's going to have an easy match because of this", whereas corporate's decision to veto his proposal (while awkwardly phrased) explains more as to why it never happened. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:23, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:04, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Both fighters' camps [...] Already edited. It wasn't just the fighters that physically fought each other? — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:39, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Source appears to say only the two of them fought. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:04, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Looking forward to your responses! — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:39, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Replied as above.  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 04:57, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Made a few more responses in turn. Should probably be able to get this wrapped up in one more round of questions. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:32, 16 June 2021 (UTC)