Talk:Eliza Dushku/Archive 1

Nudity Emphasis
Wikipedia is not censored, but it reading through this article, but the notes on Dushku's nudity onscreen/in media seem out of place in an article which is supposed to have a "neutral, encyclopedic tone". In particular, I removed this code in the "Current Projects" section:

The Alphabet Killer contains Dushku's first topless scene.

This edit was promptly reverted. I'm asking for opinions; does this note and the section on career nudity in the personal life section fit into the larger context of the article? Does it rise to the level of life significance to merit inclusion?

Clearly I don't think so, and I'm interested in hearing what other people think. Interestingly in an informal survey I just conducted, actresses who have done screen nudity seem much more likely to have that information included in their Wikipedia page than actors, which suggests to me that the information itself is not actually inherently significant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.36.33.120 (talk) 12:28, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Future projects section
The items relating to work which has actually been completed should really be removed, and added to the filmography, as they can hardly be referred to as 'future projects' can they?! Lost Girls Diary 15:09, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Color: Black?
In the personal inon, it's probably her favourite colour, but that's not immediately clear Djbrianuk 13:57, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Greatest?
Perhaps Eliza's greatest accomplishment and honor came in February of 2006 when the famous chickmagnet duo named her in their Top 5 Hottest Women on Earth List in 2006. The list also included Jessica Simpson, Jessica Alba, Kiera Knightley, and Heidi Klum.

Why Is That Her Greatest Accomplishment? And Should It Be Under 'Early Life'? --Alexius 05:09, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the Camp Hale link as it refers to a defunct military facility of the same name in California rather than the Camp Hale near Boston that Eliza supports.Britmax 23:25, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Pics
Along with the major revision of content (which read a bit like a fan club newsletter), I added four entirely new pics to the article (one combines two, plus the Wrong Turn poster) as the other three seemed to be rather blatant copyright violations. --TJive 06:34, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

Picture
Someone just put up this really stupid picture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Eliza_Dushku_raven.jpg where she's obviously not looking good so I changed it to a better one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nobelson (talk • contribs) 23:16, December 23, 2006 (UTC)


 * It may have been a "stupid" picture, but it was a free-use one. As WP:FU days: "Always use a more free alternative if one is available" (emphasis original). The one that was on the page was before that was a fair use one which would have eventually been killed. And to top it off, I see the image you added in placed of the "stupid" one got killed. Tabercil 22:09, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

WHY DID THEY TAKE OFF THE ONE WITH THE BIKINI FROM BRING IT ON AND STUFF? IT WAS SO MUCH BETTER AND THIS ONE IS STUPID. COME ON, I'M SERIOUS, YOU KNOW SHE'S NOT LOOKING GOOD THERE AND YET YOU PUT IT UP. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.53.127.36 (talk • contribs) 13:58, December 25, 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm not disagreeing, but see my comments immediately above. Tabercil 15:25, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Theres a really pretty buffy one named "Buffy307.jpg". We should put it up and leave it there until we find another one where she's looking good and it's a free-use one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.53.127.36 (talk • contribs) 23:24, December 26, 2006 (UTC)


 * Ahem. What part of the word "always" from the WP:FU snippet I posted did you not understand? The "buffy307.jpg" image is fair use, the "Eliza_Dushku_raven" series of images are all free-use. It doesn't matter if she's looking good in the image or not; replacing free use images with fair-use ones without a damn good reason is a quick way to get yourself blocked from editing Wikipedia. Tabercil 06:09, 27 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Good that it's fair use, and it really "Adds" something to the article. Shows how some hotties can be completely average. And vise versa.--Iamstillhiro1112 12:44, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup
Any chance we can clean up the horrid use of passive voice in this article? It's like everything happened to her by accident or chance. Someone does something to something else.... Bob ate a cat. Not "a cat was eaten by Bob". Can we get basic grammar right, please?


 * I've done basic copy edit, trimming oblique language. It would be useful to remove more of the boilerplate WP:PEACOCK phrasing. 98.210.208.107 (talk) 01:37, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Watertown or Boston?
IMDB and article both say born in Boston; infobox says Watertown (and attended Watertown high school, although doesn't mention moving). There's no way to be born in Watertown without being delivered at home--were her parents Watertown residents and she was born at St. Elizabeth's, perhaps? At any rate, it appears contradictory. --Jnik 23:16, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Name
Maybe somebody could elaborate on her surname. Is it typical for somebody of Albanian decent? It's definitely not an American or a Danish/Scandinavian name. Don't want to offend anybody, but for Germans/Austrians/Swiss Dushku sounds funny, as it is pronounced very similar to Dusch-Kuh which translates to Shower-Cow and just makes no sense. Norsktroll 16:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * maybe it's magyar —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.70.102.47 (talk) 20:13, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

It's an Albanian name. Her father is Albanian. -Duribald (talk) 20:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

She has a purely Albanian last name, Dushku is a very popular last name in Albania, it comes from the name of a tree, in Albanian called dushk... It has really nothing to do with Dutsch-Kuh, it's Dushku an Albanian last name... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.24.249.202 (talk) 14:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Dushku is also a town in central Albania —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecad93 (talk • contribs) 20:33, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Was she really in Charmed?
It says that she was in charmed in 2006 playing a character named zoe. the only season that falls under 2006 is season 8 and i have that season and i did not see her anywhere. Care to elaborate? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpagan09 (talk • contribs) 22:33, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

No she was not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.56.176.132 (talk) 03:25, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Triathlon
She mentioned on Jimmy Kimmel how she completed a Triathlon, which I think is interesting and might be notable enough to mention under personal life. -- Horkana (talk) 04:55, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

A mormon?
http://www.ldsfilm.com/lds_tv.html This website marks eliza as a mormon and I am just wondering if there is any truth to this Sorry if I am out of place I have never done this before and really just curious not trying to correct any information already available. thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.22.181 (talk) 23:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * She was raised in the mormon faith, but no longer considers herself a mormon. -Duribald (talk) 23:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Special appearances?
It seems rather redundant to list her role as "Herself" for every single one of her guest appearances. As such, I have removed it and left any "alternate" roles she had. Feel free to put it back if you disagree. -D14BL0 (talk)


 * Seems like a smart choice to me; good that you picked that up.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:31, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Naked
I removed the section about her saying people would more likely see God than her naked, and the follow-up references to her marketing of Dollhouse and whatever else that was. First, it was contentious and not encylopedic. Secondly, the semantical vagueries of the word, "naked" are such that it is arguable whether the marketing campaigns cited constitute a contradiction of her statement, which was the point of the removed section. An attempt to paint her as a hypocrite seems like a poor use of this forum (BLP), and it's poorly executed effort in any case. Ibinthinkin (talk) 03:27, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

"Major Members of the Buffy and Angel Casts"
For every other significant member of the cast of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, there is a box at the bottom of the page with a link to all other significant cast members. Ms. Dushku is conspicuously absent. Is there a reason for this I'm unaware of? I'm new to this, so I lack the know-how to add a link myself, but it seems like an easy fix. I just wasn't sure if there was a valid reason to exclude her link from the box. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.116.30.118 (talk) 16:23, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps she is not considered a sufficiently major character for inclusion, based on first appearance date and number of episodes. There seems to have been some discussion at the template's talk page about template size and "character glut". Somebody recently raised the question of Faith there also. Maybe try joining that discussion? Fat&amp;Happy (talk) 18:40, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

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