Talk:Elizabeth Barry

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Discussion
Today, when I was at the library, I remember that you (bishonen) requested a picture for this page. I found a very nice one &mdash; it looks just like a photograph, even though photogaphy wasn't invented for another 150 years or so &mdash; in Leslie du S. Read (1996), International Dictionary of Theatre - 3: Actors, Directors and Designers, St. James Press, Detroit, page 52. Unfortunately, the library doesn't offer access to a scanner, and the book was part of the reference library so I couldn't borrow it either. The image is credited to New York Public Library. The cost for licensing an image from the NYPL is > $100, even though they can't possibly claim copyrights on things as old as this one. So even if it is public domain, and we could legally use it, the problem is getting a hold of a digital copy of it.

I also did a Google image search, but all the images are boring and/or of uncertain copyrights. &mdash; David Remahl 01:40, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot for your efforts and tips, David. I don't know the dictionary you mention, but the Carolina library in Uppsala (where I work) has it, it seems. I'll take a look at your Barry pic, if I ever find any time to spare when I'm in Uppsala. Alternately, the 16-volume Biographical Dictionary of Actors, Actresses, Musicians, Dancers, Managers and Other Stage Personnel in London, 1660-1800 by Highfill et. al., that KB in Stockholm (where I live) has in their ref section , is more easily accessible to me, maybe they've got the same pic. KB might do me a digital copy of an obviously public domain pic, if I found a good one in there. At least, I know  KB will do a pretty good-looking paper copy (not a regular photocopy, but some different technique) that I could then scan at home. Do you think there would be too much depreciation adding up if I did that?
 * I love the Highfill dictionary, incidentally. I was just checking places like Alibris and ABE and Amazon in hopes of finding a complete second-hand copy, even if I'd have to charter the Queen Elisabeth II to get the volumes across the Atlantic, but it looks hopeless. There are only odd single volumes offered, expensively, and most of the time you can't even tell which volumes they are. Grrr. :-( Anyway, thanks very much. --Bishonen 12:09, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * I love the Highfill dictionary, incidentally. I was just checking places like Alibris and ABE and Amazon in hopes of finding a complete second-hand copy, even if I'd have to charter the Queen Elisabeth II to get the volumes across the Atlantic, but it looks hopeless. There are only odd single volumes offered, expensively, and most of the time you can't even tell which volumes they are. Grrr. :-( Anyway, thanks very much. --Bishonen 12:09, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Reverting myself
On second thoughts, I've reverted to Sannse's 1911 EB version, it was fine as it was. I've added back minor edits by others—meaning basically the categories—and not lost anybody's work but my own, I hope. Bishonen|Talk 12:07, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

theatre companies
The phrasing of "big, prestigious London theatre companies " seems somewhat ridiculous when there were only two companies originally, then one for a time, rather than a plethora of rival companies as the sentence would suggest. Fisty 08:33, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Ahh, that's why I like to write for Wikipedia — the appreciation. If the phrasing is ridiculous, perhaps you'd like to improve it? I was trying to make sense to a non-specialist reader in a concise way about Barry's prestige, without going into detail about the London monopoly of the patent theatres versus the other kinds of work that less famous and successful actors than Barry would be reduced to, either exclusively or part time. Quite a few people combined a September—May position in one of the licensed theatres with working the summer fairs outside London in the off season, for instance. Seasons or years in "strolling" companies or the "nursery" theatre at Barbican were quite common also, and London-based actors not infrequently worked for periods abroad. A reasonably successful career actor like Joseph Haines would be a good example. Barry and the rest of the top actors did the prestigious patent theatre work exclusively. Bishonen | talk 09:27, 6 June 2006 (UTC).

Wrong citation
"When Barry starred in The Orphan, it was implied that “the trope of the female breast to represent innocence or ruin (consider the many references to Monimia’s “swelling breasts” or “white breasts”)" In the play is never mentioned “swelling breasts” or “white breasts”. Confused Alberich21 (talk) 10:54, 4 August 2019 (UTC)