Talk:Elizabeth Seymour, Duchess of Somerset

Stub classification
I have classified this article as a stub due to its level of detail and organisation. Capitalistroadster 06:43, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've added more content and changed it to 'B' class. Craigy (talk) 21:54, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Article reverted to Stub status after copyright cleanup effort. MLauba (talk) 00:25, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Close paraphrasing
This article was expanded in 2007 with content following very closely on the corresponding ODNB article. This source is not cited, which is a concern for plagiarism, but I am also concerned that the paraphrase may be close enough to constitute a copyright concern. I am seeking additional feedback.

For one example, compare the following from the article at the time the content was added:

The ODNB says the following:

For another, the article said:

The ODNB says:

There are several other passages that concerned me, in addition to simply an overall reproduction of the structure of the original piece. While facts are not copyrightable, creative elements of presentation - including both structure and language - are. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:29, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Leaving aside the plagiarism bit, like substituting in the ODNB references (i.e. whoever added this here didn't actually read those sources, they just copied ODNB without attributing who actually did the research) - yes, if I was R. O. Bucholz, I think I'd be pretty angry. There are too many distinctive turns of phrase copied more or less directly and the structure (thesis if you will) is copied pretty much intact. I see no additional creativity in selection and arrangement of facts. I may be swayed a bit by feeling that copying in this way is a bit dishonest, so keep that in mind. But I would say this is close enough to be copyvio. Franamax (talk) 21:20, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm with Franamax. Too close, needs to be taken back to the point prior to the introduction of the ODNB text and started again. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:46, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ The article was up for review at WP:CP today. Reverted to last known non-infringing version, references and non-creative content restored. MLauba (talk) 00:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Proposed merger from Henry Cavendish, Earl of Ogle
Henry Cavendish, Earl of Ogle has very little content about the earl himself, while there is some information regarding his wife Elizabeth. Since Earl of Ogle died at the age of 17 and did not hold any significant positions (e.g. MP), there is not much to mention about him. Therefore, I propose merging Henry Cavendish, Earl of Ogle into this article, and make it a redirect to Henry Cavendish, 2nd Duke of Newcastle. ネイ (talk) 14:09, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge from: Henry Cavendish, Earl of Ogle
 * Merge to: Elizabeth Seymour, Duchess of Somerset
 * ✅ Klbrain (talk) 09:52, 4 August 2021 (UTC)