Talk:Elizabeth Siddal

Exhumatinon "Legend"
Her hair continued to grow while dead? My ass (hairs). Where is this legend taken from? And please fix it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.21.123.155 (talk) 03:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand your frustration, but perhaps you are missing the point. The myths and legends here would be of the true nature of the Rossetti family. Wikipedia isn't exactly doing a great of job of portraying them as a witches coven. The Rossetti family was undoubtedly wicked, perhaps the gods of justice demand more than just the demise of their foolish son. Siddall (notice the true spelling of her "improper" name) deserved much better than this. Also notice how all true English women have lost their beauty, perhaps maybe this is the curse of Siddall? ;) Justice never sleeps, it waits.

The photo is dated 1860. I'll bet it's a death photo. A very common practice in Victorian times was to photograph a lost family member fully dressed with all family members. Sometimes the eyes refuse to stay open.203.219.69.38 (talk) 04:49, 11 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Highly unlikely given the pose. Paul B (talk) 13:36, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * What? Her pose and face both look inert.. what are you smoking? I agree with the anonymous user, the photo looks strange, the position seems abnormal, this very well may be a death photo. Haunting

The photo is very likely to be a death sitting, i.e. she is dead but dressed for the camera. These were very common during the Victorian era, particularly of young children.14.202.185.156 (talk) 11:17, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Sketch by Lewis Carroll
There is a pencil sketch at http://chasseausnark.blogspot.com/2008/02/elizabeth-siddal.html which purports to be of Siddal drawn on 8 October 1863 (after Siddal's death) by Lewis Carroll. If anyone can verify this, that image could be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. -84user (talk) 09:17, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

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Lizzie?
...styled and commonly known as Elizabeth Siddal

I should say, contemporarily at least, she is more usually referred to as Lizzie. Then again, so is Mrs Saxe-Coburg-Gotha familiarly among her subjects, both with affection, and vehemently without.

Nuttyskin (talk) 15:07, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Siddal or Siddall
It's been a long time since I took the Preraphaelites module at University, so I can't answer this myself. But even within this article it's unclear if her surname is supposed to be Siddal (as per the title) or Siddall (as per the lede). Anyone want to weigh in? GeeJo (t)⁄(c) &bull; 20:50, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Lucinda Hawksley's BBC.com article
I happened to see this today by the author of a book by a similar name. Peaceray (talk) 20:09, 7 January 2020

Potential backwards copy
Today I stumbled across a potential copyright violation. Please see this comparison between the 2018-03-03T15:12:32 Wikipedia version & the August 15, 2021 update on www.scarpantolady.com/elizabeth-siddal.

I believe this to be a backwards copy for these reasons: I was unable to find any archived versions of scarpantolady.com at archive.com. However, I did add one of this page in question at https://web.archive.org/web/20211201233051/http://www.scarpantolady.com/elizabeth-siddal/.
 * The insertion occurred with, dated 2018-03-03T15:12:32, by.
 * The text on http://www.scarpantolady.com/elizabeth-siddal/ reads Elizabeth Siddal by scarpantolady updated on August 15, 2021.

I see that you last edited on 2020-03-27. When you next log on & get a chance to read this, would you please confirm that my interpretation is correct. Peaceray (talk) 23:44, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Rearrangement of images & addition of a gallery section
I plan to reorganize the images so that Rossetti's portraits of Siddall, Regina Cordium (near to their wedding) & Beata Beatrix (well after her death) are more appropriately placed int the Marriage to Rossetti and Relationship with Rossetti's Family section where they will be more chronologically placed.

I think a thumbnail of How They Met Themselves would be appropriately placed near the mention of the Neil Gaiman story of the same name.

I also think that a gallery of images of her work & that depict her work as a model would be appropriate, similar to the Suzanne Valadon article. Peaceray (talk) 00:01, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

"Elizabeth Ambatukam Siddall" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elizabeth_Ambatukam_Siddall&redirect=no Elizabeth Ambatukam Siddall] has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached. Liz Read! Talk! 02:20, 31 July 2023 (UTC)