Talk:Ellen Johnson Sirleaf

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Liberia is finally headed in the right direction with the election of Ellen Johnson Sirleaf.

Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf is the best choice for the Liberian people due to the fact that she is highly educated and has worked with government, the United Nations and other foreign institutions.

''I feel that if she's given the chance to contribute he quota, she will make the difference and improve the lives of all Liberia. I also want the rest of the world to know that it is Ellen who will reinstall the merit system here in Liberia, so let us give her the chance''.--66.178.57.19 11:12, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

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I removed an obviously false quote. Note that the list of titles held and dates contradicts the main body of the text, so there's work to be done there. Ak13 01:28, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

So FYI the whole politics section of her page is pretty much copied word for word from the book Prominent African Leaders Since Independence. I am going through the section now and adding citations and rewriting sentences. But lazy much? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emaddox66 (talk • contribs) 02:49, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Female leaders in Africa
BBC News calls her "Africa's first elected woman leader". Has there been an unelected woman leader before in Africa or is she the first of any kind? &mdash; Trilobite 09:02, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Among ancient unelected leaders, Hatshepsut (1508-1458 BC) and Cleopatra VII (69-30 BC) were the most famous female pharaohs of Egypt, but there were female pharaohs before Hatshepsut, and there have been many female monarchs in other parts of Africa. A more complete list of female monarchs, on Africa and other continents, can be found in the article List of queens regnant.CharlesHBennett (talk) 00:16, 27 December 2010 (UTC)


 * → Carmen Pereira was pro forma Head of State of Guinea-Bissau for few days in 1984 and Ntombi of Swaziland was a kind of Head of State but not elected. --POY 09:25, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
 * There have also been several female prime ministers, but in their respective countries the Prime Minister is appointed and is a secondary role to that of the President (i.e., the female PM isn't the actual leader of the country). --PatadyBag 13:34, 11 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Excellent, thanks for the information. &mdash; Trilobite 14:16, 11 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Have any countries in the America's ever had a Female head of state? (besides Canada, which has a female, and European, head of state) Seabhcán 15:40, 11 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I believe Canada has also had a female prime minister. Elefuntboy 16:08, 11 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Canada has had Kim Campbell as a female prime minister. However, the prime minister is the head of government, not the head of state. The Queen is represented in Canada by a governor-general. At least the last two have been female.


 * Maria do Carmo Silveira is the prime-minister of Sao-Tome and Principe. Sao-Tome and Principe are islands off the west coast of Africa, very close to the continent... would that still be considered Africa, politically? --IronyWrit 19:15, 11 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Yes it would, but agains she is a Prime Minister, and I would guess that she was appointed by the President, not elected. (Jamandell (d69) 19:46, 11 November 2005 (UTC))

There were two in South America, Violeta Chamorro was a female president of Nicaragua from 1990-1996 and Mireya Moscoso from Panama, from 1999-2004. -Raniya


 * Cool, thanks. (Well, Nicaragua and Panama are Central America)Seabhcán 09:06, 14 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Technically the first female head of state of African descent was Michaelle Jean of Canada, the prime ministers of Burundi and Dominica, while defacto leaders, technically were not heads of state


 * Yeah, but you did say "The Americas" which to me suggests all of the Americas and not just the US and Canada.--NIck Miles 10:49, 14 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I did mean the Americas, but Raniya said "There were two in South America..." Nicaragua and Panama. I was nitpicking. Seabhcán 10:54, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

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Queen Elizabeth II was head of state of a number of African nations until the last, Mauritius, became a republic in 1992. --gbambino 01:38, 24 November 2005 (UTC) LONG LIVE HARRY POTTER :)!! FROM ANNOTYMUS (I SPELLED IT WRONG) whatevs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.153.230.181 (talk) 01:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

The answer is yes. Ruth Perry was the first African female leader. She was also from Liberia and was an interim leader.

Two well known female heads of state in South America were Isabel Perón, who, as vice-president, succeeded her late husband Juan Perón as President of Argentina in 1974, becoming the first non-royal female head of state in the continent; and Michelle Bachelet Jeria, who served as the elected president of Chile from 2006 to 2010.CharlesHBennett (talk) 23:55, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Better photo
Does anyone have a better photo? This one is pretty small. --Michiel Sikma 15:38, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Minor Edits
I've made a couple of minor changes, most notibly to her year of birth. From http://www.unmil.org/read.asp?newsID=755&cat=pclip it states that she was born in 1938, not 1939. I've also added a link to her political party's home page. --NIck Miles 10:38, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Image
While looking I found this page with an image of her. Is USIP government operated making the photo in the public domain? I couldn't tell. If so, it's a better image. gren グレン ? 20:39, 16 January 2006 (UTC)


 * "The United States Institute of Peace is an independent, nonpartisan federal institution created by Congress to promote the prevention, management, and peaceful resolution of international conflicts. Established in 1984, the Institute meets its congressional mandate through an array of programs, including research grants, fellowships, professional training, education programs from high school through graduate school, conferences and workshops, library services, and publications. The Institute's Board of Directors is appointed by the President of the United States and confirmed by the Senate"

Does that make it Public Domain? I'm also looking for some photos of Ms. Johnson-Sirleaf for the Afrikaans Wikipedia. I did find one on the US Embassy's webpage, and I've added it. But I think a photo of Ms. Johnson-Sirleaf alone would be prefered. Thank you. Mr. Anonymous (af) 18:22, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Education
I added a CU degree and changed the date of the Harvard MPA from 1973 to 1971 based on this CNN page. http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa/01/16/liberia/index.html Aardhart 05:55, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Did President Sirleaf attend UW Madison? I can't find a good confirmation of this. She attended the Madison Business College, but I don't think the this institution is affiliated with the UW or UW School of Business. Impossible Like This (talk) 02:24, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Reference
Jon Lee Anderson, Letter from Liberia, "After the Warlords," The New Yorker, March 27, 2006, is the correct reference (not Dec 27, 2008). (128.97.25.15 (talk) 01:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC))

Head of state vs head of government
The article said that she was the third black woman head of state in the world, but the two other examples it gave were not heads of state. Also there is Ruth Perry to consider. Furthermore, chances are that some or many African nations were run by queens at some stage in the pre-colonial era, so it seems safer to me to add in the qualifier "elected" and say that she is the first elected black woman head of state. But it would be good if we could cite a source here. &para; 10:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf or Ellen Johnson Sirleaf?
Is it Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf or Ellen Johnson Sirleaf? --212.247.27.15 (talk) 13:47, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

"She notes that the widespread hyphenation of their last names is incorrect. She doesn't use a hyphen." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/15/AR2005121502052_3.html

"Most media organizations - including The Economist - hyphenate her last name, but in interviews President Johnson Sirleaf has said that it isn’t hyphenated." http://democratizationpolicy.org/2008/08/23/chinese-investment-in-liberia-brings-risk/ 66.245.43.17 (talk) 06:30, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Moreover, I note that The New York Times White House correspondent Helene Cooper, a native Liberian, refers to the article subject as "President Sirleaf", not "President Johnson-Sirleaf". Ms. Cooper, being a highly-placed and highly regarded member of the media and having written a memoir about her childhood in Liberia and the political shakeups that changed her life, should be regarded as an authoritative reference on this point.  Given her intimate familiarity with the topic, she would be much less likely to be wrong about something like this than other writers. Robert K S (talk) 22:33, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

'Neo-liberal reforms'
The page says Johnson-Sirleaf wants to bring in 'neo-liberal reforms' to Liberia. The citation for this is an opinion piece, not a news piece, and nowhere is Johnson-Sirleaf actually quoted as saying she wants to bring in 'neoliberal reforms', nor are any reputable observers. Given the pejorative nature of the word 'neoliberal' and the irrelevance of the cited source, I'm removing this sentence. Let me know if there are objections. Midos (talk) 10:45, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

University of Colorado?
She's in the "University of Colorado Alumni" category, but the article has no information about what or when she studied there. Could someone please add this? 174.24.90.154 (talk) 03:43, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Numbering of presidency
I added the "24th" section back to the infobox. It is not prohibited under WP:MOS; in fact, there is a section for it on Template:Infobox officeholder. Furthermore, it is included on a number of featured and good articles (see Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Stephen Harper, Ban Ki-Moon, etc.), so it should be included here in order to improve the article. – Helmandsare (talk) 04:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

The Pride Of Liberia
''Her Excellency, Our president has done very well for this country Liberia and we as Liberian must appreciate her efforts. This is a country that was half destroy due to the past violence. Liberian should learn to be appreciative. '' Hence to a wise is quite sufficient. Liberian LOVE ELLEN and she will showily win.
 * ELLEN MUST GO — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.191.104.24 (talk) 18:52, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * This is not a place for political propaganda from either side. Please refrain from discussion not related to improving the article.204.65.34.206 (talk) 18:01, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Americo-Liberian ancestry
If she's not Americo-Liberian then how did she and her father acquire the Johnson surname? Johnson is not a German surname. Johnson is a very common surname among the Americo-Liberian and Krio elites. Bab-a-lot (talk) 12:53, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Divorce date
Does anyone have a copy of This Child Will Be Great? I recently read a borrowed copy, but I've returned it to the owner; while I suppose we couldn't use it for the divorce date (since it would also be a statement about someone else, not just her claims about herself), it would make searching on Google more likely to get results. I've tried searching  and all I get is statements that they had been divorced, without any dates at all. If we could add a year to that search, I expect that we could find something solid. Nyttend (talk) 04:23, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Gay rights
I have reverted an edit made by 62.163.114.187 discussing the recent comments made by Sirleaf concerning gay rights in the international image section. This information is redundant; the section Gay rights already covers this information. Any additional information concerning this topic probably should be made in that section. My previous edit summary discussing "speculative information" was solely in regard to a report concerning Sirleaf being "Bongophobic", which is an unsubstantiated rumor in the Liberian press. Furthermore, the reverted material clearly does not meet WP:NPOV, especially the phrase "a shockwave was felt around the world." Any additional edits should conform to this policy. Idaltu (talk) 20:45, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Actually, the copy I edited VERY much concerns her international image and does not double up with Gay Rights. In fact, the Gay Rights section is very biased, making Sirleaf out to be tolerant of gay rights. Not the case. The phrase, 'A shockwave was felt around the world' was taken directly from/referenced the Huffington Post article which you clearly didn't bother to read. As it stands in the International Image section, Sirleaf comes across as this amazing woman. That is so biased. She is homophobic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.163.114.187 (talk) 09:37, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Studies
The article states that Ms. Sirleaf (born 1938) studied economics and accounting from 1948 - 1955 at the college of West Africa (a high school). I think it would be more fitting to write that she attended high school, than to state that she studied economics and accounting. The latter implies a regular course programme at a university — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.236.189.138 (talk) 12:13, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

1997 election
There is an error in the information about her results in the 1997 election - she came in second with just under 10 percent of the vote, not 25 percent. There were 11 minor parties that split 15 percent, while Charles Taylor won with 75 percent. This information is available in the Wikipedia page on Liberian elections, 1997. 71.189.207.156 (talk) 18:02, 7 January 2015 (UTC) Kathleen Sheldon

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Discrepency in vote
In this article it says she received 25% of the 1997 presidential vote, which differs significantly from what the article for that election claims was her vote share. SecretName101 (talk) 04:33, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

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