Talk:Ellen Southard

Ship ID
How do you know the ship's ID and other details when the Registry of Ships lists not one but two Ellen Southards in service in the 1860s? Gatoclass (talk) 12:22, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The tonnage (828 tons) is mentioned in reports of her wrecking. Socrates2008 ( Talk ) 13:05, 22 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I couldn't find that. Could you quote me from the source please? Gatoclass (talk) 15:55, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Pg 322 Socrates2008 ( Talk ) 08:54, 23 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, that looks like a reasonably reliable source, although some corroboration would be nice. I can't actually access the source in question which is presumably why I couldn't find it.


 * I was going to expand this article a little myself but you are obviously still working on it, so perhaps I'll wait a while and see how it turns out :) Gatoclass (talk) 11:57, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Feel free - I'm starting to run out of steam... Socrates2008 ( Talk ) 12:11, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Change in legislation
I can't locate the source for the statement that the disaster resulted in a change of legislation so that non-Americans could receive the medals, would you mind pointing it out to me? Gatoclass (talk) 12:18, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * See my last edit. Socrates2008 ( Talk ) 08:03, 12 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I needed that one for my own article :) Gatoclass (talk) 09:32, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * My turn - I'm looking for an 1870-era map of the Mersey that shows Jordan Bank. Something like this.  Any ideas?  Socrates2008 ( Talk ) 11:03, 12 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Not really, but if I was looking for something like that I would probably try google images or archive.org with a search string something like "map mersey mouth". Gatoclass (talk) 12:48, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, no, been there - nothing as obvious as that unfortunately. Socrates2008 ( Talk ) 06:20, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Clarification needed?
Hello Trappist the Monk - thanks for your contributions - could you please elaborate on the "clarification needed" tag that you've added to the article as I don't understand what you're trying to draw attention to. Thanks Socrates2008 ( Talk ) 11:06, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Before I added the template, in the edit window, what sentence read in part:   Hidden editorial comments or questions tend, I think, to remain hidden.  At some point, some editor questioned the correctness of the Captain's name.  All I have done is expose it to the light.


 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 14:02, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, thanks very much. Socrates2008 ( Talk ) 11:12, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Picture available
There's a contemporary painting of this ship available here:  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.106.196.62 (talk) 10:15, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * That’s a picture of her sister ship, and the article there is an uncredited derivative work of this article.61.68.145.79 (talk) 10:20, 9 November 2020 (UTC)