Talk:Elvira of Toro

Marriage
I have remove the marriage, which I think is apocryphal for two reasons. First, her supposed husband was Sancho Fernandez, and their child Fernando Joanes. Based on the onomastic system at the time, Fernando Joanes was son of a Juan, not of a Sancho. In later years, they broke this pattern, and a pedigree at this period that breaks the pattern is an invention from that later time when they had lost touch with the system. Second, that son is supposed to be 1st Duke of Limia, at a time when the Castile/Leon did not really use the title Duke, and Counts with defined geographical distinction were not really common. It looks to me like the whole pedigree was invented to give the first Master of the Order of Santiago a royal pedigree, and should be viewed with similar skepticism as the Guzman pedigree invented for St. Domingo. If anyone has a reliable source for it, I would like to see it, but this doesn't pass the smell test. (of course this also places into question the pages for Fernán Pérez de Ovando,Sancho Fernández de Ovando,Fernando Joanes de Ovando, 1st Duke of Limia, and Pedro Fernández de Ovando, and anything else coming from the same source.) Agricolae (talk) 02:07, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Her will dated 11 november 1099 has been published and can be viewed at:
 * . She makes no mention whatsoever of any husband, dead or alive, or of any children. Besides several churches and monasteries, the main beneficiaries were her sister Urraca and her great-niece Sancha (daughter of Urraca I of León and Raymond). --Maragm (talk) 21:06, 28 June 2012 (UTC)