Talk:Ely, Cambridgeshire

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Name Section
Hello there! I've just edited the name section to add what I've found recently, by looking at some of the local histories. I've spoken to the person referenced in source 10 on the main page, Mac Dowdy, and he's going to let me know if there are any better sources that he can find than the interview with him. While his work is still available, he is now registered blind, and it is thus quite hard for him to read his notes.

I've been told that a lot of his work still lives at Cambridge University Architecture Department and the Cambridge university library. If anyone would like to help me with the saga of following up the Elysium claim, that would be most appreciated. I will be speaking with Mac further if anyone wishes for me to ask further questions.

Ta,

--Apparently j (talk) 17:17, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Camden
The note "Ipsa vero Elye urbs est non-exigua, nec sua sane vel elegentia vel frequentia praedicanda, utpote ob uliginosum situm, coelo parum salubri" which Google translates as "The city is no small for Elias, nor the frequency of his or elegentia or, indeed, be preached, for instance because of wet site, wholesome little heaven". Is this Google translation useful to anyone?--Johnsoniensis (talk) 13:38, 3 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Google translates it *slightly* better today, but I think the meaning is closer to "But Ely herself is not strictly a city, nor can her elegance nor crowds reasonably be proclaimed, for due to her marshy site, the airs are not very healthy." 86.26.33.25 (talk) 03:18, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Eels
Regarding: "Problems also remain, as pointed out by historian Mac Dowdy, as the word eel (or similar) did not exist at the time of the founding of Ely" This is fairly obvious nonsense. Ely has seen human occupation since the neolithic but we have no idea what those people called it. But the city of Ely as we know it was created by the Anglo-Saxons who certainly did have a word for eel. See for example the entry for eel (n.) in the Online Etymological Dictionary: "Old English æl 'eel', from Proto-Germanic *ælaz." Jayarava (talk) 11:09, 17 November 2022 (UTC)