Talk:Embraer EMB 312 Tucano/Archive 1

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Colombia bougth 24 Super Tucano in a deal of 233 million USD. I see that today in the news when the first one reached CATAM military airfield. But I think they come in 2 packs.--ometzit&lt;col&gt; 17:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Pilatus PC-9
It bears a superficial resemblance to the Pilatus PC-9. Was the Brazilian plane at all based on the Swiss one? Drutt 22:08, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The Tucano actually flew some 4 years before the PC-9 did, so the question is was it based on the PC-7. Honestly, single-seat turboprop trainer aircraft all look pretty much the same.--Dali-Llama 23:48, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Copyvios
Over the last two weeks, User:Josl22 has contributed a large amount of text to this article. Unfortunately, this is a user with a history of copyvios, and some of the text here has been directly lifted from websites as well, including this one and one from aviastar (the latter itself no doubt plagiarised from somewhere else). I've rolled back to the end of June. --Rlandmann (talk) 21:37, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I had the same concerns, but was not aboe to find proof. I'll try to look though the history later to see if anything usefull was added by other users in that timeframe. Also, the same user has been active on the Short Tucano and EMB-314 pages. Have you been able to chack them as yet? - BillCJ (talk) 22:13, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * No - I'd had enough for one day! The "Copy-Paste-Change a Few Words" technique makes tracking down the sources difficult and time-consuming. Any help would be appreciated. I was looking for stretches of clear English to plug into Google, or phrases with advanced vocabulary. --Rlandmann (talk) 23:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Almost by default the best English-language article about the aircraft is this one by Greg Goebel; it's public domain, although I imagine it would be bad form to just copy and paste it into Wikipedia and then lock the page from all future editing. I would support blanking Wikipedia's article and turning it into a redirect to Goebel's page. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 17:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Just place the link in the EL section. Locking articles or redirecting them to off-Wiki-Foundation sites is contrary to the Founder's vision, and so would never fly (asumming you were serious). As to using Greg's material, he's fine with it as long as it is credited to his site, but his writing style is a just bit too informal for WP, so it would have to be rewritten anyway. However some Powers-That-Appointed-Themselves-To-Be in FA reviews have declared that Vectorsite and Joe Baugher are not suitable as reliable sources, so we've had to go back and find their original sources to cite. They both list their sources, but do not use in-text citations. - BillCJ (talk) 18:19, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Joseph Kovács
Why is it almost never mentioned that the designer of the Tucano and other early Embraer aircraft was the Hungarian Joseph Kovács? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.79.95.241 (talk) 12:36, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


 * It may be because it is not mentioned in the standard reference works on the subject but you are welcome to add that fact if you can find a reliable reference. MilborneOne (talk) 12:52, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I found a reliable reference and added this. Who says old issues don't get resolved? Kyteto (talk) 03:27, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Number unit built
The last serial number produced by EMBRAER is the 312504 plus 160 units produced by shorts = 664 units Dafranca (talk) 14:09, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Afghanistan
It appears Afghanistan will be receiving 20 of these. Just a heads up for inclusion at some point. -- Surv1v4l1st (Talk 16:25, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Advertisement Tag
I have noticed multiple issues with articles relating to Embraer aircraft being written in peacock language, and sounding like grandiose advertisements. This issue is especially prevalent in the opening paragraph of this article, where the accolades on how the EMB 312 was ahead of its time are sourced from Embraer itself. Zkidwiki (talk) 22:47, 23 June 2018 (UTC)