Talk:Emi Suzuki

Neutrality
Stories about Suzuki visiting lakes, hanging out with best friends, speculation as to her mysterious appartment and watching television should be removed. Also, comments from fellow models do *not* count as acceptable references. Also, some of the sources are written in Japanese - I therefore recommend an WP editor, able to read Japanese to verify those; are they gossip magazines or reputable publications? -- Plum couch Talk2Me 21:16, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe Champ Road isn't ;-) but I think the rest are ok. - Freja Beha Erichsen (talk) 00:27, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


 * One I briefly looked at was Hatena. I've no reason to take it seriously. -- Hoary (talk) 08:07, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Fan trivia
We read:


 * As for her hobby, if she has it, it may include watching MMA[15][† 1]. Since the early 2000s, there is a vogue among Seventeen models for liking K-1 and Pride FC, and according to Sayaka Ogata (a former ST model), Suzuki in the course of time began to watch it like other ST models and was seemingly interested especially in Wanderlei Silva. In addition to it, a writer who competed to edit an MMA magazine claimed that he witnessed Suzuki[† 2] once at the Saitama Arena.[16] On the day, the Pride FC held a tournament there, Pride Grand Prix 2006 Final, where the fighters included Wanderlei Silva and some others.[† 3]


 * Anna Tsuchiya once spent her private time together with Suzuki, it was when they both were 17. They enjoyed a summer festival at Suzuki's local city (maybe the Gion Festival of Kyoto). After being proposed by Suzuki, Anna canceled her modeling schedule and then followed Suzuki. Tsuchiya and Suzuki stayed for 5 days in an inn near Lake Biwa. According to Tsuchiya, Suzuki had already been too famous in Kyoto at the time, so she was often surrounded by a crowd of especially young girls who wanted to shake hands with her, and many of them ("brats") called her Emi-nee.[† 4] Tsuchiya has got a photo of her and Suzuki, which was taken at this time, striking a pose of a wrestler ("the pose of Jun") in miko clothes.[17]

How is this encyclopedic? -- Hoary (talk) 08:07, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Exclusivity
We read (after markup stripping):


 * she terminated her contract with Seventeen in 2006 and began her contract with PINKY as an exclusive model. [...]
 * While working as a model for PINKY under an exclusive contract, she has also worked as a model for many other fashion magazines and has modeled for a variety of ads
 * While working as a model for PINKY under an exclusive contract, she has also worked as a model for many other fashion magazines and has modeled for a variety of ads

Exactly what was excluded by this exclusive model/contract?

Or is "exclusive" (like "legendary", "iconic" and so forth) now drained of any meaning? -- Hoary (talk) 09:31, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * It may be a direct translation of "senzoku model" (ja:専属モデル). A model with senzoku (exclusive) contract with a magazine is basically not allowed to appear in other magazines. A model with senzoku contract with a fashion house is basically not allowed to work for other fashion houses. Not all fashion models have it, of course, just some of them have. GMTnishi (talk) 14:45, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Excessive
The article is a long read and appears to contain too much unimportant trivia (cars she received as a present, places she visited, etc). It seems as if this entry is more of a press release by a PR firm instead of a straight to the point biographic article. Would a more experienced member care to shorten and cleanup this entry? I tried to remove some of the less encyclopedic information but some users keep readding it. So many celebrities received cars as presents or went traveling that it's difficult to name one that hasn't. Please limit it to the more important stuff, such as her career and maybe relationships. If she's only friends with people that shouldn't be included, either... it's not encyclopedic. ★ Dasani ★ 22:26, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think that is a needless trivial information. By the way, I know Puerto Rican professional wrestler Ricky Banderas and Mexican professional wrestler Abismo Negro received a pile of Romanée Conti from her (that is why I arrived here), but I shouldn't add that because I have no source I can show. Important thing in this case is that she is (or was) a tanimachi (ja:タニマチ), a very young wealthy tanimachi. Pink Stuff Hernandez (talk) 07:41, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * As for the information about Emi-nee's origin : I understand the explanation This was introduced in Tsuchiya's first appearance in Kohaku Utagassen in Dec 31, 2008 and Suzuki confirmed it. As one of the only notable personal information about Emi Suzuki. Kohaku Utagassen is one of the most renowned music programs in Japan. Do you think it's non-notable? Pink Stuff Hernandez (talk) 17:05, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Edit : My original language is Spanish, so if my edits include a poor sentence, please correct it. Pink Stuff Hernandez (talk) 17:12, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Just because it's sourced doesn't mean that it is eligible for addition in a Wikipedia article. How come we don't see such facts in Hilary Duff or Tila Tequila? Those two women are very popular American celebrities. Both have been gifted cars, houses, and go on vacation at least three times a year. Wikipedia does have guidelines and this is not very encyclopedic. You seem to ignore the guidelines and substitute it with your own personal beliefs. ★ Dasani ★ 20:38, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * NOT. Even Ayumi Hamasaki and Namie Amuro don't say this. ★ Dasani ★ 20:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, in this case, it's no matter what she gave or what she did exactly in Kyoto. Important things in this case are - Emi-nee, one of the most renowned nicknames of her. And being tanimachi. Without that, how do we explain the origin of the alias?
 * Yes, this is an encyclopedia. So this is not a chronological table, not a curriculum vitae, because this is not a knowledge base. Pink Stuff Hernandez (talk) 03:00, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

BTW, I just snipped out most of the stuff a few days back. I think this article should be more to the point of her career. Many biographies had similar issues but more experienced editors came along and decided most of it wasn't notable, sourced, or useful. ★ Dasani ★ 17:02, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

The best way to determine the importance, priority or relevance, of particular information is to examine how it is treated in sources, preferably comprehensive sources. Any cons? http://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/6477676/ http://mdpr.jp/021168687 http://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/4684855/ http://www.weblio.jp/content/%E9%88%B4%E6%9C%A8%E3%81%88%E3%81%BF http://www.kanteiya.com/documents/document/SuzukiEmi.pdf I'll readd some contents which have been continuously removed. For example, one about her relation to mixed martial arts - unlike the editor above, I think it should be mentioned in the article because, of the reason above, and it seems to have directly affected her career as a tarento, or at least a historically significant media appearance. GMTnishi (talk) 14:00, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The way it was written in the article before was biased. I wasn't sure what that even meant, whoever originally placed those lines of text there noted much "speculation". What does that even mean? If you want the article to read about her MMA notability, you would have to rewrite it in a fair way. I'm not sure how notable she is in that industry. I would think most people only know her for modelling. ★ Dasani ★ 17:05, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Height
Is Suzuki actually 5'9" (177 cm)? I have seen many sources online that state she is, indeed, closer to 5'6" (168 cm). For example, Japan Times article states she is only the latter... 75.5.3.76 (talk) 04:36, 31 May 2011 (UTC)