Talk:Emil Holub

Legacy section
Are those books and statues etc. really his legacy? Moreover, are those things significant enough to be included in an encyclopedia? -- Sandius 20:43, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, they are not that much significant. But I think they make no harm. The article is my pet (I live nearby). I plan to add more relevant information as time allows.


 * Some time ago I intentionally unlinked insignificant dates/places - I am of the opinion that links get misused for trivialities. Pavel Vozenilek 21:55, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Well, I can't completely agree. I think such things do make harm -- but that's an inclusionism vs. deletionism question. Go on and add more information if you can; but please consider once more whether the contents or better the entire section is really needed here and whether it really adds something valuable about Emil Holub.

As for linking dates and places, I don't think it's such an evil. Days, perhaps, don't need to be linked, but years (IMO) should be. Such links don't corrupt the readability of an article and they can serve as a link to a broader context of the mentioned period. -- Sandius 14:01, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * About links readability: originally I was of the same opinion but later started to I like clean articles, which do not link trivialities. My opinion on date links is that they are almost always useless. With better software they could be of use but not now. Pavel Vozenilek 16:47, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Concerning usefulness, you may be right. In most cases, they really are useless; but I tend to like them, because I think they can be of use as an "anchor" for the reader and thus improve his orientation in the text. However, this is purely subjective; maybe my point of view will change some time -- or maybe yours... -- Sandius 11:50, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * I would agree with Pavel. Legacy is part of what we call in German Leben-Werk-Wirkung (life, work, perception). So if is has to do with Emil let's say it in his article.
 * I doubt that Emil was Czech, today he would be of course. Encyclopedic birthplaces are referred to as contemporary information, so he was Austrian born in Bohemia. --Media lib 00:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)


 * I have plan to expand and clean the article with more info (all depends on time). Holub's mother language was Czech so I consider him as Czech. What is interesting his companions to the Africa (second journey) were truly international (in today term) - Hungarians, Austrians, Czechs. Quite a lot of such details can be seen in his museum. Pavel Vozenilek 13:00, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

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