Talk:Emiliano Mercado del Toro

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This article could use a re-write to put things in more chronologic perspective. → R Young {yak ł talk } 07:09, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

"It is highly unusual for a man to hold this title: the 16 consecutive preceding holders were female, and 39 of the top 40 oldest persons are female" - what does this last part mean? 39 of the top 40 oldest persons ever, or 39 of the top 40 oldest persons currently living?--HisSpaceResearch 03:19, 21 December 2006 (UTC)


 * It's your last assumption, my dear friend. Extremely sexy 13:24, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

World's oldest person?
Emiliano Mercado del Toro is not definitely the world's oldest person of all. For the love of God, there could be people in the world that are even older, like Alberta Davis, for instance. Marcus2 14:29, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Right, but never proven, as he is, so officially speaking he is indeed the world's oldest person. Extremely sexy 15:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Emiliano is the "world's oldest person" titleholder. The very use of quotes indicates that this is a qualifier. No one who claims to be older has come remotely close to being accepted as validated. They are all free to apply. → R Young {yak ł talk } 20:19, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * That's exactly it - oldest proven person living. I do find it odd, yet somehow cool, that Emiliano, as a man, is the oldest person in the world, and the only man in the top ten oldest living people. I hope he lives longer than Jeanne Calment did. This man is just over 95 years older than me. I find that amazing, as a twenty year old.--HisSpaceResearch 07:53, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

The odds of Emiliano catching Jeanne Calment are about 1 in 128...meaning given 128 115-year-old males, there would be an even chance of one making it to 122.45 years old. → R Young {yak ł talk } 12:53, 19 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I know it's not likely. Hey, we're breaking talk page guidelines here by using this as a forum for discussion about the article's subject instead of a guide to writing a better article.--HisSpaceResearch 13:37, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Kind of an ironic comment, considering you started it (i.e. the discussion about whether he will catch Jeanne Calment...quite ridiculous, in my opinion, to be speculating about seven years in the future...)→ R <span style="color:#006688; font-family:arial, helvetica;">Young {<span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; font-size:x-small;">yak <span style="font-family:arial, helvetica;">ł <span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; font-size:x-small;">talk } 02:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC)


 * So what, he is more than 80 years older than I am, and I really do hope he will still be living when I turn 35 (May 2nd). Extremely sexy 15:32, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

That's my birthday, Bart!→ <span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; color:#ff0000;">R <span style="color:#006688; font-family:arial, helvetica;">Young {<span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; font-size:x-small;">yak <span style="font-family:arial, helvetica;">ł <span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; font-size:x-small;">talk } 02:52, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * So you too, my dear friend? Extremely sexy 13:35, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, looks like he's 16th oldest person in the world now, and in less than a week, he should be the 15th... assuming he doesn't die before then...--HisSpaceResearch 18:48, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, shit. Oh well...--HisSpaceResearch 19:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed: he did day one day before. Extremely sexy 00:24, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Haha he died! that sucks :( Bifgis 02:29, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you really think this is funny? Extremely sexy 11:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I was hoping he would reach 116 and just came to the article a few hours ago to check on his progress. Oh well still did very well to reach 2007! :) YourPTR! 18:15, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Never Married/Married Three Times?
Greetings,

I've been told by sources that talked to the family that Emiliano 'never married.' He had three girlfriends, which may have been mistranslated from Spanish into 'spouses' and then 'married three times.' Checking the media stories, about half say he married and half didn't. However, from a somewhat insider position, he didn't. The 1930 census lists him as single. If I'm wrong, I'll be OK with changing it, but I'm quite certain he didn't marry.65.81.28.227 06:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed, he did not. I'll add some details to the article on the subject Demf 15:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much indeed, dear friend. Extremely sexy 11:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Henry Allingham, oldest combat veteran?
Mr Allingham is listed in the article as the oldest combat veteran. Whilst I belive he is the oldest verified living combat veteran, is it not the case that Moses Hardy, was a combat vet? I know there is some question about the age he reached but he was at least 112, older than Mr Allingham at present. There may also be some other deceased vets older than Mr Allingham, I'm not an expert on this. Can someone with a bit more knowledge than myself (and who knows how to edit pages) check this and make a change if necessary? Sanctuary73 12:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Henry Allingham is NOT the 'oldest combat veteran' on record. Aside from Moses Hardy (who, if 'only' 112 years 11 months, would stil be quite a ways ahead of Mr Allingham) there were also cases like Antonio Todde and Giovanni Frau. Antonio, at 112 years 346 days, would be the recordholder if not Moses Hardy.Ryoung122 16:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Indeed: all died at 112+, but also George Frederick Ives, who died at 111 1/2, is still ahead of him currently. Extremely sexy 14:37, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou Mr Young and ES for confirming my suspicions. I've removed the incorrect reference to Henry Allingham. Should something now be added saying the oldest combat veteran is 'possibly Moses Hardy or Antonio Todde' or maybe 'probably Moses Hardy'? This article is about Mercado, I want to try to avoid a large section on someone elses disputed date of birth. Sanctuary73 15:33, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


 * You changed it accordingly, so thumbs up. Extremely sexy 10:44, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm...
It looks like he's been dead for a year now...I remember being extremely happy when he was the oldest living person, because he was the first male oldest living person in my lifetime. 58.168.213.239 (talk) 06:44, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * And Izumi isn't fully validated: go figure. Extremely sexy (talk) 20:04, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

del or Del Toro?
Should the "del" in his name be capitalised or not? The GWR 2009 edition does, where he's briefly mentioned as being Tomoji Tanabe's predecessor. But then again, the edition also misspells Yone Minagawa as Yone Minegawa on the first page of the index. Brendanology (talk) 09:11, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Incumbent
If there's anything in the wikipedia or wiktionary entries for "Incumbent" that suggests the use of that word in a succession box about longevity, it's exceedingly well-hidden. This is all of a piece with the deeply unencyclopedic view that old age is a contest, whose "winners," "record-holders," and "record-breakers" are inherently notable. David in DC (talk) 22:19, 31 January 2011 (UTC)