Talk:Emily Penrose

Chapel
"Dame Emily Penrose's life is commemorated with her place on the wall in the Somerville College Chapel." Is this referring to a plaque or to something else?--Johnsoniensis (talk) 16:51, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Legacy
Some information in the career and legacy sections seem to focus on changes at Somerville College which occurred when Penrose was Principal elsewhere. Are there citations which show she was involved in these changes? Doctor S Monkey (talk) 11:14, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Reverted edit
Hi, I think there are two problems with the sentence. Firstly I thought that it was not entirely clear what path the sentence was referring to. This could be resolved by linking it to the following sentence about joining the University of London. More importantly the words are taken from the source, on page 115 of Bingham's book, which reads, but they are not formatted as a quote and attributed as required by WP:QUOTE. I thought the simplest way to resolve both issues was to remove the text from the article, what would you suggest? TSventon (talk) 11:43, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, I am entirely happy for this sentence to just come out of the article - it's not one of mine, and I'm not sure it adds anything significant enough to be worth keeping as it is. And thanks for taking a look at the page, ! KateCook (talk) 16:29, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks . By the way, do you have access to A History of Bedford College for Women, 1849-1937 (Margaret Janson Tuke, 1939)? It would be good to mention Penrose's achievements at Bedford and Google offers only snippet view. TSventon (talk) 17:02, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi TSventon, thanks for posting here. I thought that the path being referred to was clear, as it followed in the next sentence:
 * "She was instrumental in gaining the college admission to the newly formed University of London in 1900.[2]:96 This change led to increasing numbers of students studying for and being awarded London degrees, and a movement away from studying Oxford courses (where the female students at Royal Holloway were not allowed to receive degrees, but instead received only a notification that they had completed the class)." The original sentence could be included as a quote if necessary. I thought it was an important sentence as it recognised Penrose's influence in a more general sense, which is easily elided. What do you think? Srsval (talk) 17:09, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I have formatted the quote as a quote, although I still don't think it is essential to include it as the rest of the paragraph demonstrates her achievements at the college. The ODNB also recognises Penrose's influence as principal at all three colleges. TSventon (talk) 11:18, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Copy editing
I have removed "Penrose was a leader at the time that women secured admission first to Oxford university lectures, then to examinations, and finally, in 1920, to university membership." as Penrose joined Somerville as a student in 1889, some years after the first women were admitted to university lectures in 1880 and examinations in 1884 (see references in Association for the Education of Women). I don't know what the Yorkshire Post reference says but it is a hundred years old and was added after the sentence was written by a different editor. Penrose's role in the university delegacy for women students, leading to the admission of women to full membership is mentioned earlier in the section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TSventon (talk • contribs) 20:56, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


 * ,, I have made some further edits, feel free to revert or reword as necessary. I have found her appointment date as Professor of Ancient History at Bedford and the invitation to become Principal of Somerville may have been made in 1906, shortly after the death of Agnes Maitland, rather than 1907. TSventon (talk) 12:06, 22 April 2021 (UTC)