Talk:Emily St. John Mandel/Archive 1

Conflict of interest edit request
[Redacted IP] 22:01, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Please delete this line: Spouse	Kevin Mandel[2]:
 * Divorced as of November 10th 2022:
 * Judgement of divorce granted 11/10/2022, Onondaga County index no. INDEX NO. 008096/2022:


 * The requested edit violates Wikipedia policy as expressed in WP:NOR and more specifically in WP:BLPPRIMARY: "Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person."
 * Basically, Wikipedia should not be the place of first publication of any information that has not already been published elsewhere, particularly in WP:BLP articles. If this information is sufficiently public and important enough to be reported by reliable third-party sources, then it may be updated here. TJRC (talk) 20:38, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * This was updated as of a little while ago with an actual reference, so I guess it's moot for now. RexSueciae (talk) 21:56, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The user provided a court order to correct changes in an article, easily verifiable on the NY Court System site.
 * The judgment of divorce is clearly listed.
 * So now we have a situation where someone reached out to correct a factual error in the article about them, Wiki refused to allow the entry to be changed, despite being provided with court records about an objective fact.
 * This is textbook reckless disregard for truth. Court orders are not optional, and take effect even if the press does not cover it.
 * If court documents cannot be used to correct an article, that is a significant compliance threat to wiki, and the wikimedia foundation needs to address this risk. Pharniel (talk) 02:01, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Pharniel Did you know that Wikipedia values references more than the truth. It should actually be both but there is much discussion over this. References or it can't be in Wikipedia, even if the references are wrong. That's why the BBC wrote a story about it. Denmarkforever (talk) 10:32, 20 December 2022 (UTC)