Talk:Eminem/Archive 9

Eminem sales:
Not to discredit this Nigerian article here, but there is something wrong over the 40 million worldwide albums+singles sales

Article: 115 million albums and 100 single worldwide,in US he sold over 50 million album and over 42 million single.

Eminem official site: 115 million albums worldwide, 42 million tracks and 49.1 million albums in the United States Source

In the United States: Soundscan sales 45,160,000 million (6, June 2014). Yahoo Chart Watch - Source plus the 8 Mile Soundtrack album sales 4,922,000 million ( [FROZEN]It’s the first soundtrack to a theatrically-released movie to hit 3M since 8 Mile, which has sold 4,922,000 copies since its release in 2002) - Yahoo Chart Watch - Source Total albums sold: 50,082,000

- 100,000,000 (Albums sold worldwide) minus 50,082,000 (Albums sold in US) = 49,180,000 sold albums WORLDWIDE, this amount passes easily the 40 million albums+singles sold worldwide according to that article, leaving the amount of singles sold worldwide uncovered.

100,000,000 albums sold worldwide + 42,000,000 singles sold in US (very likely to be outdated) + 8,900,000 singles sold in United Kingdom as 18/10/2012 (outdated) Official Charts - Source

Total: 215,000,000

 So counting the albums sold worldwide and only the singles sold in US and UK, the worldwide total sales given by that article is clearly highly inaccurate

An alternative source can be found here: http://www.theconcertforvalor.com/

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Dawn Scott death
Eminem's sister-in-law Dawn scott died. I added details about her death and also some personal details that she was a drug addict and homeless since 2014. SNUGGUMS seem to think the addition is unnecessary. I'll like to ask how. KahnJohn27 (talk) 21:39, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Because this isn't a page on Dawn Scott, Kim Scott, or even the Scott family. What happens to his in-laws (or ex-in-laws in this case since Eminem and Kim divorced) isn't really relevant here. Snuggums (talk / edits) 23:05, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I added only a few details that were imoortant. See the article about El Chapo, deaths and arrests of his family members or ex-family has been reported. And Dawn Scott is the sister of Em's ex-wife and mother of his adopted child. You can't decide what's relevant or what goes into the article. Is there any policy that prohibits about adding about a family member's death? KahnJohn27 (talk) 23:13, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * If it's ok with you then I'll reduce the content and only add the sentence "On January 19, 2016, Dawn died, apparently due to heroin overdose." KahnJohn27 (talk) 23:18, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * What WP:OTHERSTUFF uses isn't relevant here. Such details would be better for an article on Dawn herself, Kim, or someone else in the Scott family. Adding it here would be excessive detail on family/ex-family, and potentially WP:UNDUE weight. It would be better to include deaths of people from Eminem's "official family", so to speak, like his parents or half-siblings. Snuggums (talk / edits) 23:21, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I just pointed out an example. Divorce from his wife is of little consequence since she is still related especially since she had lived with him for a lomg time earlier and is the mother of his child. This article isn't about Proof (rapper) either but there's a whole section about his death and he was just musically associated and was a friend. From your comments, it seems that you're deciding yourself what will go and what won't. You cannot do that. As I asked you before, is there any policy that prevents from her death being added? KahnJohn27 (talk) 23:41, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Like I said, WP:OTHERSTUFF is not the focus. As for policies, the first thing that comes to mind is WP:UNDUE, which says not to give excessive detail to aspects of a subject within an article. I hadn't noticed the section on Proof before you mentioned this, but that doesn't really belong here either and is better for his article and the Recovery album article if anything given the songs about him that are included. I will remove that. Don't worry about me being "selective". Snuggums (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 23:50, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Now removed. It didn't belong here at all. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 23:54, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I cited the El Chapo article as an example. The people at that atticle don't seem to think there is anything wrong in adding deaths and arrests of Chapo's family. are removing and adding as per your wish while the discussion is going on. None of it is excessive as it is related especially Proof's death whivh had an impact on Eminem. I don't worry about you being "selective". You are not the master of this article. As you have not provided any policy that doesn't allow such a thing to be added, I am reverting your move. I won't revert again after this, I'm not interested in going into an edit-war but please don't take it upon yourself to decide what can be here and what cannot be. KahnJohn27 (talk) 00:52, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Also I suggest to seek a consenus about this issue. The only problem I see is relevance to the article, whether it is due or not. Such a thing is debatable so I'll suggest a consensus to solve this. KahnJohn27 (talk) 01:04, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I never said I was "the master" of this article. Also, just because one article includes something doesn't necessarily mean another one should. See WP:OTHERSTUFF for more. Dawn's death isn't really relevant here, and neither is Proof's. It's not like either of them affected his career or anything. Additionally, the key word in my statement regarding due/undue weight was potentially. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 01:17, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It seems you can't understand my comments. I never said that you made such a statement. When I said "you are not the master of this article" it was in reference to your actions. And as many times I've said the El Chapo article is an example that there's nothing wrong in adding about their deaths, that's it's not against the policies, not that we should do as they have done in the article. But anyway, as I've said earlier I can shorten about Dawn's death. You still haven't answered about that. Will it be ok with you if I shortened the details and then added them? KahnJohn27 (talk) 01:32, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I am against including it at all for the reasons previously stated. What El Chapo uses isn't relevant to what other articles should or shouldn't include per WP:OTHERSTUFF, and we shouldn't include things here solely because another article does. More than anything else, it's WP:Too much detail to talk about her death, which isn't exactly within this article's WP:Scope. On another note, you don't have to ping me in every response; that's just overkill. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 01:43, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I ping you in order to make sure you know that I've messaged you. Besides if I ping you or not is my decision and is useless to this topic. And your comments are basically same as before. We're going over the same thing again and again. This discussion is going absolutely nowhere. The only way to solve this debate is to seek a consensus. I'll suggest including about both Dawn and Proof since they're both about including deaths of people closely associated to Eminem. Do you agree to take a consensus? I'll be ok if you want to start the consensus yourself since I'm short on time though I do hope you accurately mention both our reasons. KahnJohn27 (talk) 01:59, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * If this was Kim's death, I'd say maybe since he was actually married to her and is more often associated with him than Dawn is, and I very much do understand your reasoning for inclusion, but I really don't agree it would be of any benefit to mention Dawn or Proof's deaths even briefly. It's simply not relevant enough to include within the article. They detract from the article's main focus. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 02:10, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Did you read what the comment said? I asked whether you wanna take a consensus of other users? KahnJohn27 (talk) 02:18, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did read it. Other users are free to comment. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 02:25, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I actually had a Rfc kind of consenus in mind so as many people as possible give their inputs, if it was a simple consensus then I wouldn't be asking you if you want it. I'm going to start an Rfc about both Proof and Dawn about this issue, this will also provide an example of what to do in cases like these. KahnJohn27 (talk) 02:33, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * No RFC needed, just let users comment here as they please. Let's not make this more than it needs to be. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 02:35, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Rfc is for getting more and proper inputs and to know what to do in a similar issue. It's the only solution I see for this issue. KahnJohn27 (talk) 02:42, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * A better idea in this case would probably be asking people at WT:WikiProject Eminem since those editors will likely have a good sense of Eminem's life and a better sense of what to include/not include than those unfamiliar with his life. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 02:50, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

That project's talk page has barely been active in years so I don't think it is wise to start it there. KahnJohn27 (talk) 03:45, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Should info about deaths of Proof and Dawn Scott be added and if yes, then what in form? (RfC)
I had recently added about the death of Dawn Scott to the article. Dawn Scott is the biological mother of Eminem's adopted daughter Alaina and twin sister of his ex-wife Kim Scott. However SNUGGUMS removed the details of her death. I readded it but he removed them again. His reasons for not letting it add are that she isn't her family member as Eminem had divorced with Kim, details of her death are WP:UNDUE or WP:Out of scope of the article and this is not an article about Dawn or Kim or Scott family. Also he removed about a sub-section of Proof's death of the the "Personal life" section from the article even though the section was more about how Eminem responded to his death. I however reverted his edit. Proof was the best friend of Eminem and associated musically as he was member of his musical group D12. SNUGGUMS has cited some of the same reasons for removing the section of his death: it is WP:Out of scope or WP:UNDUE, this isn't an article about Proof and the info about songs of Eminem's album Recovery dedicated to Proof should be in the article about that album.

My reason for keeping the details about both Proof and Dawn's deaths are that I think their deaths are relevant and DUE to the article as both of them were closely related to Eminem, the subject of this article and I don't think there's any policy that at least explicitly prohibits from adding about their deaths. Dawn Scott is especially very closely related as I've already said she us biological mother of Eminem's daughter and ex-sister-in-law. Also I had cited another reason to SNUGGUMS about adding details of her death, I gave the example of El Chapo article where deaths and arrests of El Chapo's family members and ex-wives are mentioned. So atleast Dawn's death should be mentioned. However SNUGGUMS refuses this saying we don't have to go by what's done OTHERSTUFF. Proof was best friend and member of Eminem's music group D12. Additionally as I already said the sub-section about Proof's death was more about Eminem's reaction to Proof's death.

This issue seems complex to me and the discussion between us two basically kept going back-and-forth over the same thing. I offered to reduce the amount of details to just one sentence "On January 19, 2016, Dawn died, apparently due to heroin overdose". However he didn't agree. The discussion has ended up going nowhere and that's why I've created this RfC in order to receive input of others including those who haven't been involved with others. Additionally, I think this might also serve as an example if what to do in similar cases.

So my question is: Do you think the deaths of Proof and Dawn Scott should be added to the article? And if yes then in what form? KahnJohn27 (talk) 03:46, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Discussion
Sorry for making it so long but I wanted to provide a proper and detailed explanation. KahnJohn27 (talk) 03:49, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * A full-blown RFC really isn't needed as it only makes this bigger than it needs to be. Also, I said potentially undue, which isn't quite the same as simply undue. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 04:01, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You added 'potentially' later on. Besides I've already stated the reason for RfC, won't state it again and again. KahnJohn27 (talk) 04:20, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * UPDATE: I just came across the policy that would discourage including these sorts of things; WP:What Wikipedia is not. See the sections WP:NOTMEMORIAL and WP:NOTNEWS for details. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 06:43, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Proof's death should not be restored to the page as per WP:NOTMEMORIAL. Though it is notable, it does not warrant inclusion on Eminem's personal page. Meatsgains (talk) 18:23, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
 * But the section about Proof's death is not even about Proof and his death, if you try to read it carefully it is about the "effect of Proof's death on Eminem". And I think it is important to keep the effect/impact it had on Eminem and his music. KahnJohn27 (talk) 20:36, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * No, not really; it didn't have that much impact. Yes I did read it and I still say it doesn't belong. The "personal life" section is already rather bloated and we don't need such detail in it. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 20:51, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The article talks about the impact of Proof's death on Eminem and his songs and how he responded to the death, I don't see it as unimportant. Of course some of the details about Proof's death are too excessive and shouldn't be here, those can be removed. But except that, the other part of the section deals with it's impact on Eminem. It isn't long at all, in fact it is brief especially compared to other sections of the article. KahnJohn27 (talk) 23:46, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Any detail on how it impacted his songs is better for song and album articles than a bio page. I also checked the reference used, and the only song about Proof that it mentioned was "Difficult", so I removed the others since we can't have unsourced/poorly sourced content in an article per WP:No original research. While it is true that there are longer sections present, that doesn't justify including this one in the article. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 23:59, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Proof's death may have impacted Eminem and his lyrics to a few songs but anything more than a passing mention would be WP:UNDUE. I agree with SNUGGUMS, that this information would be better suited on the album's page, where it can be discussed in greater detail. Meatsgains (talk) 03:13, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

The text about Proof's death was too much detailed and was irrelevant to the article. It didn't belong in the article in the first place. So I've shortened it now. KahnJohn27 (talk) 00:49, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * That's what I've been trying to tell you all along. In fact, there shouldn't even be a section/subsection on it here to begin with. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 00:54, 29 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Include up to a sentence about each - Summoned by bot. I don't really understand why you need a whole section on Proof's death. Nothing in there makes it sound like it was particularly notable in Eminem's life. For example, if he fell into a deep depression after the man's death, and changed career paths, then I'd get including a section. But it doesn't sound like that. Many people have friends that have died, but that doesn't generally warrant a section on Wikipedia about it. As for the part about Dawn, I think it's more relevant, but again, it looks like too much detail. The info should be about Eminem, not about his associates. I think both can be included, but only up to a sentence about both. One sentence doesn't hurt and it seems relevant to who he is. FuriouslySerene (talk) 14:50, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Agree - Include up to a sentence about each. Both facts add interesting detail to this BLP -- but only the facts themselves, which can be concisely stated. -- DanielKlotz (talk · contribs) 13:37, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I think that's a good solution. The details about their deaths should remain very short. But what do you think about the effect of Proof's death on Eminem? Do you think details about him attending his funeral and songs of his album being dedicated to Proof should be kept in the article? KahnJohn27 (talk) 20:47, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * A short paragraph with a couple (or few) sentences) seems appropriate to me. Otherwise, WP:Undue.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:55, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, in the case of Proof's death, two sentences. ;) "His friend Proof died. He attended his funeral and dedicated x number of songs on his album Such-and-Such to him." Something to that effect seems fine and appropriate to me. Good thought. -- DanielKlotz (talk · contribs) 21:18, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

,, , @<b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b>, I've just shortened the info about Proof's death further and removed irrelevant content. Now the only circumstances of Proof's death the article mentions are his date of death and that he was murdered. Also, I've added about Proof's death leading to reconciliation between Eminem and Royce da 5'9" and reformation of Bad Meets Evil. Please let me know what you think about these latest changes to the section I've made. KahnJohn27 (talk) 14:33, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Better than before, but I wouldn't give this its own section in "personal life"; better integrated within the "Recovery and Bad Meets Evil reunion" section. There's also no need to talk about his funeral. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 15:53, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The sentence about the funeral describes Eminem attended it and eulogized Proof. That's why I haven't removed it though I've always thought of it being unnecessary long. However I'll shorten it and remove unnecessary mention of names of other artists. KahnJohn27 (talk) 17:09, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

,, , @<b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b>, I've also shortened the paragraph about Proof's funeral recently, now it only contains text that is related to Eminem such as him attending it and eulogising Proof. KahnJohn27 (talk) 17:16, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * His funeral still doesn't belong here to begin with. People to go funerals of family and friends quite often, and there isn't anything noteworthy about his attendance per WP:NOTNEWS. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 17:54, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * They certainly do, but not every close one is as famous as Proof and it is very rare for a funeral to be attended by thousands of people, especially when some of the people themselves are very famous. But then again we should go by consensus and the only thing people agree to keep is his death, and Eminem tributing a song to him. If the consensus is against including the funeral by the time RfC is over, we'll remove it. KahnJohn27 (talk) 20:17, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * With these most recent changes, I think it's in good shape. This certainly belongs in the article, since Proof was Eminem's closest friend and Eminem himself delivered a eulogy at his funeral. I made minor additional changes to the wording to tighten it up further. Most importantly, I didn't think it was necessary to specify the date of the funerals, so I removed that. I don't know that it's in the most ideal place in this article, but I disagree that it should be moved to the "Recovery and Bad Meets Evil reunion" section, since the murder of Proof took place years earlier than the period covered in that section. -- DanielKlotz (talk · contribs) 23:57, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Being friends doesn't in itself mean he should/shouldn't be in the article, though. Just saying. Neither does giving a eulogy. Having a whole section/subsection dedicated to his death is simply undue weight. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 00:06, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I get what you're saying, and I definitely agree it doesn't warrant its own section. Personally, though I'm not at all invested in the subject of this article, I do find this information/story an interesting note in his biography. -- DanielKlotz (talk · contribs) 01:55, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

,, , @<b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b>, Added about You're Never Over from Recovery bring a tribute to Proof along with source. Please share your thoughts about it. KahnJohn27 (talk) 10:08, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I think the current version of the article looks fine. Good changes that highlight why these events are noteworthy enough to be included.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 12:40, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It might be better for the album article so this article doesn't delve too much into Recovery songs, but either way, please don't lump everything on Proof into its own section/subsection and the funeral is still needless to mention here regardless of how publicized it may have been or how many period attended it per WP:NOTNEWS. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 14:14, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

UPDATE: I've checked WP:NOTMEMORIAL again. However I've come to the conclusion that it does not say deaths of non-notable people shouldn't be mentioned. This is what it actually says, "Subjects of encyclopedia articles must satisfy Wikipedia's notability requirements. Wikipedia is not the place to memorialize deceased friends, relatives, acquaintances, or others who do not meet such requirements." Therefore it clearly seems to me that the policy is only forbidding creating memorial articles or separate memorial pages for non-notable people. It is not forbidding mentioning the death of a non-notable person in an article of a notable person related to them. KahnJohn27 (talk) 19:12, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Dawn most definitely doesn't meet notability requirements, which is why I cited WP:NOTMEMORIAL. It indeed would discourage creating a separate article for her. There still is no good reason for even mentioning her death here when she doesn't even warrant her own article and whatever relationship (obviously platonic) they had wasn't really something he was particularly noted for. Having family connections (or former connections in this case) is not in itself a good reason to talk about her here. Proof's death has more merit given the Bad Meets Evil reunion (and he actually has his own article), but definitely shouldn't have a separate section or subsection dedicated to it here. WP:NOTNEWS also states that even if a person is notable, events involving them aren't always noteworthy. Proof's funeral and Dawn's death aren't worthy of inclusion per WP:NOTNEWS. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 19:29, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Then that is your own opinion, not what the policy states. As I said earlier, there seems to be no policy that forbids from mentioning the death of a non-notable relative in the article of a notable person. Whether it is relevant or not, should be left up to a debate and consensus. They both were closely related to him and especially Proof's death had a good impact on Eminem and death of a notable subject like Proof is always considered noteworthy. That's why only the consensus can decide whether to include them or not as it's up for debate. KahnJohn27 (talk) 20:27, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but "good impact" just doesn't make sense. Since mentioning a non-notable person's death (who hadn't even been a relative by marriage since 2006 given his divorce from Kim) can be viewed as memorializing them, I mentioned WP:NOTMEMORIAL. Either way, WP:NOTNEWS still applies, which states Even when an individual is notable, not all events they are involved in are. For example, news reporting about celebrities and sports figures can be very frequent and cover a lot of trivia, but using all these sources would lead to over-detailed articles that look like a diary. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 22:17, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * UPDATE#2: I think you've misinterpreted more policies. WP:NOTNEWS is for articles about "current events" not articles like that of Eminem. Here's the whole lead section of the policy to which everything in the section is related, "As Wikipedia is not a paper source, editors are encouraged to include current and up-to-date information within its coverage, and to develop stand-alone articles on significant current events. However, not all verifiable events are suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Ensure that Wikipedia articles are not:"


 * Clearly you are using the wrong policy here. KahnJohn27 (talk) 04:01, 13 February 2016 (UTC)


 * You've also misenterpreted WP:OTHERSTUFF. The policy says that you cannot make a convincing argument "solely" based on other articles. However, I never used the article of El Chapo as the sole and only reason for including deaths of Dawn Scott and Proof. Clearly, my arguments and including the deaths of Dawn and Proof don't breach any of the policies which you have claimed them to do so. KahnJohn27 (talk) 04:09, 13 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I was not misinterpreting it at all. I used WP:NOTNEWS to prove the point that not everything involving a notable person is worth including in his/her article. The quote I gave is from its fourth bullet point, which is saying not to go into trivial details. In short, her death is too trivial to include. "Breach" might not be the right word, but my main overall point is to not bloat this article with needless details. Proof can be mentioned briefly, but again not his funeral (better for his own article), and he certainly doesn't warrant a separate section or subsection. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 04:19, 13 February 2015 (UTC)


 * UPDATE #3: I've re-read WP:OTHERSTUFF and clearly you've mistaken what it means. The policy only prohibits from using other articles as the sole reason to keep or delete an article. The page of the article is actually about Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. First para of WP:OTHERSTUFF says: The nature of Wikipedia means that you cannot make a convincing argument based solely on whether other articles do, or do not, exist; because there is nothing stopping anyone from creating any article.
 * Clearly this is about only deleting or keeping articles. It is not about using other articles as a reason not to "include something in an article". Hence, there is nothing wrong in me citing El Chapo's article as a reason for including Dawn and Proof's deaths. My arguments and inclusion of deaths of Dawn and Proof clearly do not breach any of the policies you have claimed them to do so. KahnJohn27 (talk) 04:38, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Regarding the WP:NOTNEWS bullet point, I never "thought it differently" from the others, I was just stating where the quote was from. WP:OTHERSTUFF might not specifically mention maintaining (or removing) something from an article, but the same general spirit and principle are what I was using. Even if not mentioned in that page, citing El Chapo isn't really a solid justification for including something. The reason I say not to include/exclude something solely based on what other articles contain (or lack) is because people oftentimes do that in a misguided attempt to improve an article when in fact it actually ends up being a net negative change, particularly if the articles they cite are in poor condition. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 04:51, 13 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I've read the 4th bulletin point, and it says not all trivia related to a notable person should be included which I agree with. However, I don't think the deaths of Dawn Scott as a mere trivia or irrelevant detail seeing as to she's so close to Eminem and mother of his daughter however this can be debated. Again it all comes back to the sams and only question, whether it is relevant (WP:DUE) or irrelevant (WP:UNDUE). That's why a consensus should decide upon it. KahnJohn27 (talk) 04:56, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Being close to someone is not in itself a solid reason for including their deaths. Neither is her being the mother of anyone. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 05:12, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * For you, not for me. KahnJohn27 (talk) 06:02, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

NOTICE: KahnJohn27 has been blocked for sockpuppetry, so this RFC is really void. I am going to be bold and remove lots of the unnecessary detail that the user has inserted per WP:DENY. I furthermore looked into this which doesn't explicitly say or even suggest that Proof dying led to the Bad Meets Evil reunion. The other citation, "SOHH", I'm not sure is really credible to begin with. His death therefore has no meaningful value here and is better for his own article. Any detail on song dedication is better for song and album articles. Sorry to everyone who found this to be unnecessarily dragged out. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 03:39, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Image
Should we use the 1999 image in the infobox? It may be well over fifteen years old, but it is of much higher quality than the 2009 image currently in the infobox. MB298 (talk) 05:29, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * No. I don't see any real problem in the detail of the present infobox image. And the Eminem in old one looks pretty young, the current image is more closer as to how he looks now. KahnJohn27 (talk) 20:49, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It's just that the current image is of low quality and perhaps another, recent image could be featured instead, with the current infobox image put later in the article. MB298 (talk) 00:27, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * If you do have a recent image that is more clearer, then do use it to replace the current one in use. KahnJohn27 (talk) 09:59, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Errors
"Eminem heard his first rap song ("Reckless", featuring Ice-T) at age nine on the Breakin' soundtrack, a gift from Debbie's half-brother Ronald (Ronnie) Polkinghorn. When Polkinghorn committed suicide ten years later, Eminem stopped speaking for days and did not attend his funeral.[9]"

Eminem was 11 when the Breakin' soundtrack was released in the spring of 1984, so he could not have heard it when he was 9. Breakin' was not a gift from Ronnie, who, though technically his uncle, was just two months older than Eminem and his best friend. As Eminem has said, Ronnie "put him on to Breakin'" and played the cassette tape of Breakin' for him. Eminem never said it was a gift.

Ronnie died in December of 1991, 7 years after Eminem heard Breakin', not 10 years later.

The errors come from the Rolling Stone article: Bozza, Anthony (April 29, 1999). "Eminem Blows Up". Rolling Stone (New York City: Wenner http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/eminem-blows-up-20091105

Thoralor (talk) 07:46, 8 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the information. You are right about the Breakin' soundtrack's release date and Eminem's age at the least. I will correct them both with another source. KahnJohn27 (talk) 19:18, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

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Suggestion to change the photo
Considering the photo on this page is 8 years old, I'd suggest updating it to this one which is his profile picture - https://i.imgur.com/HX1tCFk.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minimumhatred (talk • contribs) 07:54, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Any pictures included must be free of copyright per WP:Image use policy. <b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 14:52, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

okay, then just find a newer photo that isnt copyrighted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minimumhatred (talk • contribs) 19:44, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Found Image but really unsure
Can someone check this if we can have this on the article or not? Or are we really not able to find any clearer and more recent image?

Thanks in advance! --TheDomain (talk) 07:00, 13 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Looks fine to me, although I'm no expert at Wikipedia/copyright stuff. Thanks for spotting it! Added into page as per Be bold --Jonie148 (talk) 12:21, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

With whatever happens with it, happens. Can always be reverted :) Jonie148 Thanks! --TheDomain (talk) 18:08, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2017
Change active starting year from 1988 to 1986. He was actively rapping as Eminem since the age of 14. He was born in 1972 so 14 more is 1986, not 1988.Hithisisme (talk) 22:49, 17 December 2017 (UTC) Hithisisme (talk) 22:49, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * ..... at least not yet; it's not entirely clear whether this was professional rapping at the time from what I can tell. <b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 22:54, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

File nominated for deletion on commons
file:c:File:Eminem 2017 - EMAs 2017.jpg Reason:No permission indicated subpage: Message automatically deposited by a robot on 08:59, 2 January 2018 (UTC). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harideepan (talk • contribs)

Eminem
Would it be acceptable to add a picture of Eminem on my userpage? I would find that to be quite funny. ThaiTee (talk) 17:31, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Homophobes
Why does this keep getting removed?

Several years later, Eminem was accused yet again of using homophobic words in his lyrics, and explained "I don't know how to say this without saying it how I've said it a million times. But that word, those kind of words, when I came up battle-rappin' or whatever, I never really equated those words..." Eminem did an interview in 2017 with Vulture magazine where he delineates that his method for picking up men is to use the popular homosexual social media platform Grindr.

If you really think SkylarGrey is a closed accurate thing he's up to than this... You are crazy. Lilevilo (talk) 14:04, 18 February 2018 (UTC)


 * closer Lilevilo (talk) 14:05, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Add siblings
Add siblings Alan Borthakur (talk) 16:45, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * They already are mentioned within the "Early life" subsection of "Life and career". <b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 17:27, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Personal Life
Why does this keep getting removed?

In the book My Son Marshall, My Son Eminem, his mother stated that he has struggled with bipolar disorder throughout his life. She said it worsened after his ex-wife Kim Mathers gave birth to their daughter Hailie. in January 2018, for the first time in years, Eminem footage depicted him kissing an actress from Shades of Grey.

It's accurate and we'll cited. Lilevilo (talk) 14:07, 18 February 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't see anything wrong with including bipolar disorder, but the kissing bit is meaningless trivia not at all worth mentioning, especially without a known name or any official confirmation of a relationship that's more than a brief fling. <b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 14:27, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

It's useless to add the Kissing encounter since it was just a kiss and Eminem has not commented on it yet.Maybe it's just a pointless fling. FYI bookgirl (talk) 10:15, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

LIZ Rodrigues
If Liz Rodrigues is featured as an artist on Survival, which is on MMLP2, which won a Grammy for best rap album, should she have a Wikipedia page? If Malik Yusef has one. I feel she could too. Lilevilo (talk) 14:02, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

I think she should FYI bookgirl (talk) 10:17, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2018
Change the order of the cameo appearances (end of fourth paragraph) in order to make them chronological. Nosamsti (talk) 00:26, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Assuming we're talking about the sentence "Eminem has made cameo appearances in the films The Wash (2001), Funny People (2009), The Interview (2014) and the television series Entourage (2010)"? The current order makes sense: cameos appearances in films by chronological order, followed by cameo appearances in television. Thanks, Nici  Vampire  Heart  00:47, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 April 2018
please chnage the main pic for this page. em looks so bad in it. Abchargotra (talk) 13:58, 21 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Vague requests to add, update, modify, or improve an image are generally not honored unless you can point to a specific image already uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons that you would like included on this article. Please note that any image used on any Wikipedia article must comply with the Wikipedia image use policy, particularly where copyright is concerned. Thanks, &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 15:04, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 April 2018
Just want to change the photo of Eminem to a more current one. Mattedrob (talk) 19:01, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * That image would have to be free of copyright as per WP:Image use policy. All images of him are copyrighted unless their uploader specifically indicates otherwise. <b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 19:10, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

new achievement needs to be added
Em now holds the record for most consecutive #1 billboard 200 debuts — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.114.62.8 (talk) 21:18, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It already has been included in the lead and the Revival section. <b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 21:38, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 August 2018
In 2018, Eminem released a surprise album, Kamikaze. Meandeminem (talk) 05:05, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Even a surprise album would require a surprise reference.  spintendo   05:28, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

8 number 1 billboard albums
In the article it says Throughout his career, he has had 10 number-one albums on the Billboard 200, however billboard has stated that he only has 8 number 1 albums and they were consecutive, and his other 2 albums did not reach number 1. They aren't counting compilations and soundtracks as albums. The Eminem show came out May 2002 and 8 mile came out oct 2002, but it was not considered in his consecutive achievement nor was the Hits album, which came out in 2005, but Encore was considered for 2004. Is the article considering the hits and the 8 mile soundtrack as his albums?

this article bias
this article is like a PR papers, what about the beef, eminem is a marketing product. about his ghoswriters, Proof, D.O.C., Snoop Dogg. and many others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.115.183.180 (talk) 06:03, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Not sure what to say about ghostwriters, but supposed "beef" with others is too superfluous for inclusion, and calling someone a "marketing product" would read rather awkwardly in article text. <b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 12:31, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The G.O.A.T. does not use ghostwriters, and he is not a "marketing product". I think you have Eminem confused with MGK. However, I do agree that his murder of MGK should be included. OrangeFourInchDoorHinge (talk) 10:28, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * He never murdered anyone, at least in the literal sense, and attacks are probably better for the diss track articles if anywhere. <b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 13:31, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2018
yo its me im doing a youtube video let me edit my shit. get wit it and let me folk. ImTheRealEminem (talk) 20:39, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 * even if you are Eminem, you have to wait until your account is auto-confirmed before you cab edit semi-protected pages like this. You become auto-confirmed once your account is at least 4 days old AND you've made 10+ edits. Also, see the WP:Conflict of interest page. <b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 21:52, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 * You clearly are not the real Slim Shady, so please sit down. Em actually has a good vocabulary, and understands the basic rules of grammar, unlike you. Now stop making the G.O.A.T. look bad. OrangeFourInchDoorHinge (talk) 10:31, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

completed.

Semi-protected edit request on 14 October 2018
Add "Bunny Rabbit" to other names CaptainCrazy35 (talk) 20:24, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 * unless I've missed something, that isn't a name he's known to have ever used professionally. <b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 20:32, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 * My only guess is that he's referring to Eminems character "B Rabbit" from 8 Mile ...... although he wasn't known as "Bunny Rabbit" ... Hope  that helps :D – Davey 2010 Talk 23:40, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah that definitely doesn't qualify. <b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 23:41, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Eminem religion
Can someone add to personal life religion? He has said he is a Christian and I am not doing it because I struggle to find citation. --Canti60 (talk) 12:56, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * If you can't cite it, then it can't be added per WP:No original research and WP:Verifiability. <b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 14:08, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 November 2018
I wanna add Eminem's parents and his siblings — Preceding unsigned comment added by LMAO NUB (talk • contribs)
 * They're already mentioned in the article body. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 00:48, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Add a better and latest image.
I want to add a better image of Eminem(2018). S.shady25 (talk) 03:41, 30 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Is this a semi-protected edit request? If so, first of all, denied, you can't ask for extra editing privileges, we do it for you. Second, please share with us the image which you wish to use.  danny music editor  oops 04:09, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Infobox image
I'm noticing a sudden edit war over Eminem's picture in the infobox. Can we just agree on one picture to use and stop all of this? Geography Aholic  talk  23:34, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 January 2019
Eminem's net worth in 2018 is 210 million dollars. 42.108.34.181 (talk) 16:41, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * That needs to be cited. Please provide a source for this figure. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 18:32, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Extreme edit warring
I don't know what about, but it appears we are having an unusually high level of edit warring. I'm not sure what we're arguing about, but it has to stop. I notice both involved editors are capable of breaching ECP, so we'd need to do something else to sanction this editing if this escalates much further. Is anyone else with me? I just want it to stop.  danny music editor  oops 02:08, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2019
Add those AA 2601:43:3:7759:94E4:CE83:CFCB:637C (talk) 23:32, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
 * If by "AA" you mean "Associated Acts", then please be more specific on who should be added. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 23:35, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Feud with Kelly
This page erroneously states that Hailie Jade Scott, Mathers' daughter, is 15 years younger than Colson Baker (Machine Gun Kelly). Hailie, born in 1995, is actually 5 years younger than Baker, who was born in 1990 and is now 28. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.229.244.13 (talk) 17:52, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 March 2019
Change

The next day, in Warren, Michigan, he was arrested again for assaulting John Guerrera in the parking lot of the Hot Rock Café when he saw him kissing his wife.[240][241] Eminem recreated the Guerrera assault in "The Kiss (Skit)" on The Eminem Show. He pleaded guilty to possession of a concealed weapon and assault, and received two years' probation; however, Guerrera's assault charge was dropped as part of the plea agreement.[242]

To

The next day, in Warren, Michigan, he was arrested again for assaulting John Guerra in the parking lot of the Hot Rock Café when he saw him kissing his wife.[240][241] Eminem recreated the Guerra assault in "The Kiss (Skit)" on The Eminem Show. He pleaded guilty to possession of a concealed weapon and assault, and received two years' probation; however, Guerra's assault charge was dropped as part of the plea agreement.[242]

According to several sources, including:

https://www.eonline.com/news/41167/eminem-strikes-a-deal-pleads-guilty https://genius.com/30835

The man Eminem assaulted at the time was not named Guerrera, but Guerra. The name "Guerrera" appears in the lyrics to Eminem's "Sing for the Moment" as he could not use his real name due to a mediation agreement he had signed during the lawsuit. Milersky (talk) 19:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done with thanks, <b style="color:black">Nici</b><b style="color:purple">Vampire</b><b style="color:black">Heart</b> 19:50, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2019
JuiceWRLD1998 (talk) 00:57, 11 April 2019 (UTC) Eminem was active in 1988
 * what professional work did he do then? <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 01:19, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Picture
Hey, the picture the article uses in the info box for Marshall is unflattering for several reasons.

Is there another option? Even if it must be candid, it could be better timed and under better lighting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.116.174.171 (talk • contribs)
 * Please explain why you think it is "unflattering for several reasons". StaticVapor message me!   20:58, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2019
In the "alter egos" page, the link for Eminem's album, Kamikaze, links to actual kamikaze attacks of the Japanese Empire. Snapplepapp (talk) 14:09, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Thanks.  Rob van  vee  14:15, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

"Alter egos" section
some parts are in italics... minor formatting error. please fix. 115.134.181.60 (talk) 14:03, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2019
Replace the current image with as it was previously -- although the microphone does cover a small portion of his face, it works well as a portrait profile photo and the newer photo shows barely half of his face or appearance well at all, as well as being blurry. 77.58.237.70 (talk) 19:47, 22 July 2019 (UTC)


 * ❌; it's already being used later in the article, so it wouldn't make sense to have it twice. I'm not sure either is ideal for the lead image really.  –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 03:02, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 August 2019
Under Other Names section, remove "Double M", and add "Slim Shady" Kriltson7 (talk) 17:49, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: As per Talk:Eminem/Archive_8 - Slim Shady is seen more as a character than an alias – Davey 2010 Talk 19:26, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2019
-> }} 78.146.73.190 (talk) 21:13, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Professional Lyrical Murder
Victims: Kim Ja Rule Benzino Limp Bizkit MGK (Machine Gun Kelly) Nick Cannon Mariah Carey Britney Spears Madonna Kim Kardashian Christina Aguilera Moby Khloe Kardashian Lamar Odom Jessica Alba Will Smith NSYNC Michael Jackson Jennifer Lopez Lady Gaga Justin Bieber Rihanna Lindsay Lohan Samantha Ronson Portia De Rossi Ellen Degeneres Chris Kirkpatrick Elvis Donald Trump Vince Staples Joe Budden Lil' Yatchy Lil' Pump 21 Savage Lil' Tay Bhad Bhabie Lil' Xan Charlemagne Tha God Die Antwoord Token Migos Drake DJ Akademiks Tyler, The Creator Lil' Wayne Earl Sweatshirt Kanye West Pitchfork The Grammys Lord Jamar

13:43 December 21, 2019 Smither1093 (talk) 19:42, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Image nonsense
Please get back black image in infobox, or other recent. This one is almost or all black-white and is from previous century and does not reflect his current appearance. When he dies, then historic image can be put by rules. --Obsuser (talk) 14:02, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

I got bold and did it myself. --Obsuser (talk) 14:09, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

Ok... Queen mash (talk) 13:40, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Image Change
I have a really clear and cool picture of em from his latest concert in Abu Dhabi on the 27th of October last year and would like to post it as the official picture on his Wikipedia page Hello123Hello123Uncle (talk) 18:02, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey Hello123Hello123Uncle, You're more than welcome to upload it to https://commons.wikimedia.org and then add the image here for us to decide, If it's of good quality and better than the current image then we can start an WP:RFC to form a consensus on it, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 20:53, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 January 2020
On the 11th of April 2006, Eminem's childhood friend Proof Was Murdered in the CCC Club on 8 mile road by Mario Etheridge following a dispute during a game of billiards Bobjones313 (talk) 14:36, 25 January 2020 (UTC)


 * ❌. It's not clear what changes you want to make. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 14:53, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Someone needs to add in the introduction that he is one of the greatest rappers of all time. Nebraska321 (talk) 19:45, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Report of Vandalism by user: sunisdowndreezing- 8 February 202
Request to revert changes made by this account on my behalf as this user has deleted the “Legacy” part of this page. Nebraska321 (talk) 03:54, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

Please put back all the artists that Eminem has had an influence on and all the rappers that have called him one of the greatest rappers of all time. It is useful information and was unnecessarily removed. Nebraska321 (talk) 05:50, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion
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Semi-protected edit request on 20 March 2020
Updating the views of Eminem's 'Godzilla' MV, putting it to the standards of 20th March. 72.255.15.191 (talk) 09:29, 20 March 2020 (UTC)


 * ❌. It's not clear what changes you want to make; please make a precise request. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 14:30, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

He is one of the fastest rappers of all time.
He is B41005527B (talk) 07:31, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 April 2020
In the section about Encore, Eminem's name is spelled wrong. "Enimem was ranked 58th in Bernard Goldberg's 2005 book 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America.[85]"

Also, in the Relapse section, it erroneously states that "We Made You" was the album's first single, but "Crack a Bottle" was the first single off of Relapse.

Update: my mistake. Turns out "Crack a Bottle," despite being released in February 09 was considered a promotional single and not an official single (source: https://web.archive.org/web/20100215005307/http://universalmusic.com/artist-news/eminem%E2%80%99s-new-album-%E2%80%9Crelapse%E2%80%9D-drops-in-may-%E2%80%9Crelapse-2%E2%80%9D-later-this-year)

69.112.228.47 (talk) 08:06, 22 April 2020 (UTC)


 * . I fixed the typo, but will leave the other for an article watcher to determine appropriateness. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 14:15, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Aasim 09:52, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 April 2020
I want to add a collaborator to Eminem that was very important(he died). 24.187.51.33 (talk) 21:00, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself.  JTP (talk • contribs) 21:12, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2020
Change m 2006, to married Jan 2006 to Apr 2006. As info is now it appears he is still married. This is not the case and is backed up by info in the personal section. 68.119.124.36 (talk) 05:34, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
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List of artists influenced by Eminem
I noticed that at one point, Eminem's Legacy section became extremely bloated because of all the examples. Similarly to List of artists influenced by Michael Jackson, should an article be made specifically for that? --Osh33m (talk) 13:38, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Took it upon myself to create the page. List of artists influenced by Eminem. --Osh33m (talk) 22:12, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 May 2020
Change of picture of article with Yamoutofshape (talk) 11:34, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2020
Hi guys please change the Main picture of Eminem it doesn't look good ImTheRealARB (talk) 11:22, 15 May 2020 (UTC)


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Only one biological child
The infobox states that Eminem has 3 children, but only one of those is his biological child, so is this a correct statement or should it be fixed to say that he has 1 child? WikiSmartLife (talk) 17:08, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Excuse me? Why does the article say Eminem is credited with popularising hip hop middle America??? As if Dr Dre n Snoop never existed? As if Will Smith and “cant touch this” don’t exist? Wtf!

Semi-protected edit request on 22 June 2020
change picture Abbi fox (talk) 12:38, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
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Millenial?
I don't think Eminem is representative of the Millenial generation. He was born in 1972 which places him squarely in Generation X (for what it's worth). Mcdopper (talk) 15:45, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Angst of the millenial?
Folks, I'm sorry and I don't want to pit one generation's angst against another, but the music and lyrics of Eminem don't reflect the characteristic angst of any generation other than the one he is squarely a member of himself. Please consult the Wikipedia entry on generation x characteristics, the birth of hip-hop, his influences, his family life and background.Generation_X http://www.generationxpose.com/2005/03/eminem-voice-of-our-generation.html https://www.onthisday.com/people/generation/generation-x

I'm sorry to harp on this, but I think it needs to be re-addressed.

Thanks Mcdopper (talk) 19:47, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I agree, and have replaced the two mentions of "millennial angst," especially because the cited reference does not use that language.  B zw ee bl  (talk • contribs) 22:15, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 July 2020
Update link of reference #230 on Eminem alter egos to: http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,250049,00.html 2806:2F0:6040:198A:281C:1D67:7E98:AB79 (talk) 18:50, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Melmann 17:37, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Artists
Eminem has influenced many artists Manumanoj96 (talk) 09:16, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

emenem killed my mum
eminem — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:46D8:7F01:5D72:22D6:7F70:CC5 (talk) 17:48, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Eminem drop new album.
Add "Music To Be Murdered By - Side B". Quốc Huy Chloé (talk) 05:38, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

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Early info on his career
They didn't join Bassmint Productions in '89 they formed Bassmint in late '89. Also do you think it would be appropriate to add the dates for the other EPs he did with them back in the day, I can give info. Also the Soul Intent EP isn't an EP it's a 2 track maxi-single. DaGoat04 (talk) 07:19, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Also Proof was not a member of Bassmint Productions nor Soul Intent. The 4 core members were DJ Butter Fingers (aka Butteh Fingiz), Manix, M&M (Eminem) and Chaos Kid DaGoat04 (talk) 07:22, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

one of the greatest ref
The "one of the greatest rappers of all time" ref in the lead could use a date (November 12, 2015) and link to Billboard (magazine). --143.176.30.65 (talk) 19:13, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2021
Change "The movement received backlash from millennials.[391]" to "The movement received backlash from some millennials.[391]" Alleged backlash is only a handful of responses primarily on tiktok and twitter, which is blatantly ridiculous to ascribe to an entire generation. 68.118.105.113 (talk) 23:15, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. I considered removing it given NYPost isn't generally a reliable source, but I'll just leave it as you suggested and slap a on it. &#8209;&#8209;Volteer1 (talk) 09:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 May 2021
New photo has been added by myself as the photographer. You can add to the article as I can't add it. Thanks! LeonBennettPhotographer (talk) 06:19, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2021
Eminem did not perform at the 2020 grammy's. He made a surprise performance at the 2020 oscars. Shadow1422 (talk) 16:26, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Not done. The article already states he performed at the Academy Awards (aka the Oscars). -- Calidum  16:32, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

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Grip
Eminem should also be accredited with boosting the career of rapper Grip, along with other artists mentioned. Jechava (talk) 04:16, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Happy Birthday Slim!
Happy Birthday! Ya 49! Radioactive Waste Drinker (talk) 21:27, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 July 2021
In 2006, Eminem’s childhood best friend Proof was shot, and killed in an argument, causing Eminem to fall off the deep end. He went into a deep depression where he spiraled out of control. He was married and divorced to his childhood sweetheart for the second time in the same year. 166.205.209.2 (talk) 05:25, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
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The death of Deshaun Holton had such an effect on Eminem then it really should at least be mentioned in his private life section while carrying a link to the incidents page. Agreed it should be factual and commenting on Eminems feelings seems unfair. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.185.26 (talk) 17:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Cite errors
The following references are no longer in use, but are still in the reflist. They should be commented out or removed. ''"44fQ7" ''"6egga" ''"billboard-best-rappers" ''"KJInterview" ''"q2LES" ''"VH1 Top 40 Worst Moments in Hip Hop" Thanks 89.241.33.89 (talk) 13:59, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * done --FMSky (talk) 21:35, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you 89.241.33.89 (talk) 22:19, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

I read earlier that his "Moms Spaghetti" venture was not important enough to be credible. As Eminem himself personally served the first 50 customers, which was covered by a Detroit newspaper,then I believe it deserves at minimum a mention under charitable work/business ventures — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.185.26 (talk) 17:14, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Kidfays
Charlie Adolfo Nhassavele, professionally known as Kidfays is a South African Rapper, Singer and Songwriter born 15 March 2001 in Matola, Maputo - Mozambique. He started his career on 2021, since his first single titled "LMA" released in 25 September 2021. He calls himself Kidfays after his friends saying that he had a baby face. So, instead of "Baby Face" as a nickname, he preferred "kid face" so that he could make it exclusive, like, kid face = kid fays; Kidface = Kidfays. Kidfays's first single titled "LMA" got 5 streams in Europe: 1 Stream in France (on Deezer) and 4 streams in Germany (on Spotify). Kidfays (talk) 20:26, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 November 2021
Eminem's Net Worth As On 2021 Eminem's net worth is $230 million which proves that he is the most successful white hip-hop artist of all time. JOJO4321 (talk) 17:48, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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genres
i believe add more genres to eminem’s description such as rap rock, horrorcore, political hip hop and comedy hip hop. Kanyeezy1977 (talk) 17:54, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2022
Add rock to genre Kinggibbon (talk) 23:27, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
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'''Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ''' It should be noted that Eminem will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in November 2022. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:807:8004:2A80:69F1:660B:208E:386A (talk) 18:26, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

'''Compilation Albums? ''' Can we add a section underneath collaborative albums for his compilation ones? Like Curtain Call, Shady XV, Curtain Call 2? (ShadyXV can be labeled similar to collaborative such as saying "with various shady artists", also I believe it's disc 2 that has the hits). With him now having 3 compilation albums, I think it's reasonable to have this section added, if you think otherwise, please let me know?

Also noting, the discography page labels shadyXV as a collaborative album but the wiki page for shadyXV says compilation album. The shadyXV wiki page should say it's both a collaborative and compilation album. Thanks! AustinVD (talk) 20:04, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2022
Mahbodism (talk) 21:30, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

So this article has two problems. on Artistry -> Collaborations and productions, on both lines one and two, Lil Wayne is not linked to Lil Wayne's Page. so Please change them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahbodism (talk • contribs) 21:30, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 19 August 2022
Add - Curtain Call 2 released on the 5th August, 2022 RivalRival135 (talk) 23:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
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Chaos Kid
I feel as if there's a lack of information on Chaos Kid & his connection to Marshall when he was younger. The parts on soul intent completely leave out his close friend at the time and IMO is important to his biography. Toadguy64 (talk) 17:04, 19 August 2022 (UTC)


 * this isnnt true at all, ive been in touch with DJ butterfingas and hes given alot of information. Im wondering if i should make a prolong post of things that people from eminems life have told me. 47.190.132.109 (talk) 15:42, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Battle Rap
I don’t know where else to put this.I think I have figured out the whole battle rap song. In the beginning Clearance says he does not want to be the one Eminem commits suicide to. In the middle Eminem says he does live in a trailer with his mom and all his other problems and admits he is white trash. He then says Clarance went to private school and had a nice life, he then tells Clarance to tell the audience something they don’t know about him. Well this is what I think happens; they now know Eminem went to private school because that is how he knows Clarence went there. So he tells Clarence to tell the audience something they don’t know about him. In order to do that Clarance would have to explain what a messed up life Eminem had, maybe explain he wet the bed, had no dad, mom on drugs, everything. This would reveal that Clarance was actually a jerk and the audience would not support him, so either way Eminem wins and Clarence looses. I don’t know if this is obvious to everyone. Suicide is or has been a problem in private schools, again Clarance mentioned it in the beginning. These schools do help poor kids go there and they do get a good education, which would explain how Eminem is so talented, it takes intelligence to rap and sing like him. The end he looks scared and I know the look very well. I thought it was the look of seeing an unfurnished trailer and thinking of leaving your kids there when you leave for work in the morning. They look like they will go up in flames when you shut the door behind you and there really are a lot of sex offenders in some parks, they want to rent to single parents anyway. It’s terrifying. Then it hit me what I was missing, beginning made me realize he is admitting he was in private school. It’s the look of suicide and a trailer. I have gone to private school elementary and Jr high on scholarships. Not high school, that’s to expensive. Elementary and Jr high are practically free at some schools, the poorer and more at risk you are the more they do. I was made fun of a lot and I have lived in a trailer as a child and then went back as an adult to a trailer court to find a place to live with my kids in an emergency. I explained above what that was like. I googled “Did Marshall Mathers go to Catholic School. There is an article from 2009 that says there is a question as to where he went to school in elementary. I wish he would explain this. Not many people would understand it. They might think he is lying about his upbringing because he went to private school too. I’m explaining I do not think he is. This whole story is possible. 2601:603:4FF:5250:B5E8:51F4:B3FF:108B (talk) 03:06, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

I did not have an account before I wrote the post above. I’m trying to edit that if possible so I can add my name to it. If anyone can help me please do. Thank you SallySoest (talk) 03:48, 31 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Welcome to Wikipedia! We have a hard policy against individual editors "figuring out" the truth. The policy can be seen at WP:No original research. The whole point of Wikipedia is to summarize published writings. If it's not part of the published literature, it shouldn't be in Wikipedia. Binksternet (talk) 04:22, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Influences
In the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame speech, Eminem has cited many influences (help me hyperlink these): 2 Live Crew, 2Pac, 3rd Bass, Alliance, Apache, Audio Two, Milk Dee, Awesome Dre, the Beastie Boys, Big Daddy Kane, Big Pun, Big L, Biz Markie, the Notorious B.I.G., Black Moon, the Boogie Monsters, Brand Nubian, Brother J from X Clan, Buckshot, Casual from Heiroglyphics, Chill Rob G, Chubb Rock, Chuck D and Public Enemy, Cypress Hill, D-Nice, Dana Dane, De La Soul, Def Jef, Del the Funky Homosapien, DJ Quik, Dr. Dre, Dres from Black Sheep, Ed O.G., EPMD, Fat Boys, Fat Joe, Fu-Schnickens, Gang Starr, Geto Boys, Heavy D, House of Pain, Ice Cube, Ice-T, the Intelligent Hoodlum, JJ Fad, Jaz-O, Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, Just Ice, K-Solo, Kid & Play, King Sun, King Tee, Kool G Rap, Kool Moe Dee, KRS-One, Kwame, Lakim Shabazz, Large Professor, Leaders of the New School, LL Cool J, Lord Finesse, Lords of the Underground, Mantronix, Masta Ace, MC Breed, MC Lyte, MC Shan, Melle Mel, Merciless Ameer, Mobb Deep, Monie Love, Nas, Newcleus, Onyx, Organized Konfusion, Outkast, Andre 3000, Paris, Pharcyde, Queen Latifah, Rakim, Redhead Kingpin, Pete Rock and CL Smooth, Redman, Roxanne Shante, Run-D.M.C., Salt-N-Pepa, Slick Rick and Doug E. Fresh, Snoop Dogg, Souls of Mischief, Special Ed, Stetsasonic, Super Lover Cee and Casanova Rud, the D.O.C., the Roots, Black Thought, the Skinny Boys, Tony D, Too $hort, Treach from Naughty By Nature, A Tribe Called Quest, U.T.F.O., Whodini, Wise Intelligent and the Poor Righteous Teachers, Wu-Tang Clan and YZ. TnoIDMC (talk) 04:12, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Not everything that exists is worth including. See WP:INDISCRIMINATE. A good gauge is checking whether multiple sources list the same influence. Binksternet (talk) 04:37, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Update to history
add how he released extended versions of The Eminem Show and 8 Mile: Music Inspired By The Motion Picture B1gnlittleboyz (talk) 16:39, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 February 2023
49.144.45.103 (talk) 08:52, 4 February 2023 (UTC) A soldier once asked Eminem for an autograph. Eminem replied “Sure, if I can have yours”
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Correct the spelling of Brittany Murphy’s name
In the “personal life” section it mentions a relationship with Brittany Murphy but her name is misspelled as “Britanny.” 2601:480:4001:8310:E93A:F49F:15D5:5F68 (talk) 13:57, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * fixed --FMSky (talk) 22:41, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Early life section chronology mistakes
Not to say that the "Early life" section looks like a mess, let's recognize that some paragraphs should be swapped. Although a rewriting of the section would be best, reorganizing it would make it much more comprehensible.

Current paragraph order :

"Mathers was born..." / "As a teenager..." / "As a child..." / "Eminem's home life..." / "At age 14..."

What it should be instead:

"Mathers was born..." / "As a child..." / "As a teenager..." / "At age 14..." / "Eminem's home life..."

(n.b. birth information is already stated at the beginning of the article and in the facts grey box so it's no real use in this section) 90.247.75.37 (talk) 20:54, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 * should be better now --FMSky (talk) 14:24, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Pictures
Eminem’s main picture needs to be updated 2A00:23C7:6485:8C01:3017:F069:3CFC:CA56 (talk) 16:02, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

"Eminem (Marshall Bruce Mathers III)" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Problems
"His anger with lyrics"? He's not angry at lyrics. Change that sentence (getting yourself an Oxford comma into the bargain) to:

"The character allowed him to express his anger by writing lyrics about drugs, rape, and murder."

Also, unlock this page so we can fix it directly (pulling on a string). Asking somebody else to fix it is like pushing on a string. That is, it's nuts. And irritating. And folks won't bother, so the problems will remain locked in. 2601:600:8500:6A40:A015:E6A:1D8A:7396 (talk) 23:54, 17 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Good idea, I think it's to prevent trolls tho? 62.172.127.69 (talk) 12:42, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Cherokee Ancestry
Though the page claims he is of “cherokee” ancestry or heritage the source claims that the tribe (Echotah of Alabama) are a cherokee tribe when upon research are a heritage group and not an actual Indian tribe or band. 2601:201:8101:E5E0:F9CC:A1E8:64C4:672B (talk) 02:54, 12 July 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅ Footnote was added to clarify the Cherokee ancestry claim. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 19:26, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Caucasian please edit to white
It's a wildly racist term, from an obselete theory that humans are 3 species - Negroid and one other I forget. A zombie word that needs to die. 4321Dicko (talk) 16:26, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization <i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i> 16:51, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Asperger's
In his 2013 song Wicked Ways, Eminem reveals a possible Asperger's diagnosis:

Guess I got a way with words, I could get away with murder

''Ever heard of Asperger's? It is a rare condition''

It's what you're suffering from when you simply don't care if it's an

Eighty degree day and there's no frickin' air conditioning

And you can't see b- the hair is frizzin

Cause you got the windows up, blaring the system in your Chevrolet Prizm

The devil ain't on a level same as him

Picture someone who revels in straight masochism

And imagine him giving an adjective an a- whooping

So bad they should put his a- in prison

A word bully, I verbally abuse verbs like he did something to me personally

Used to get bullied, so I cut class and ditch it

Now I bully rap, I'm the sh-, f- (sniff it)

Is this allusion something that should be added to the "Personal life" section of the article? 2A02:C7C:EC31:4200:59C9:9476:A4B6:4CE9 (talk) 09:02, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It would have to be stated by secondary sources, we can't draw our own conclusions based on song lyrics --FMSky (talk) 15:22, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * True, although there seem to be even more references in his songs:
 * You got buns, I got Asperger's
 * (from the song Heated, 2017) 2A02:C7C:EC31:4200:59C9:9476:A4B6:4CE9 (talk) 15:55, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2023
Can you revert the infobox image to the previous one? I doubt it's public domain, and the editor who uploaded the image added it to this article the same day it was uploaded. 68.238.242.236 (talk) 23:40, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Tollens (talk) 04:00, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Eminem film debut
The first film that Eminem was in is THE WASH with Snoop Dogg and Dr.Dre 65.141.241.205 (talk) 04:33, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Videography
I think there should be a separate videography page like with every other singer. GamerKlim9716 (talk) 20:47, 19 November 2023 (UTC)


 * You looking for this?  Bremps  ...  21:21, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2023
It says Eminem died today in Wisconsin on the front search of wiki from google. I have no clue how to fix it. 2600:1700:5AF0:A160:C68:E587:3FAA:C772 (talk) 06:36, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * We've nothing to do with Google Hyphenation Expert (talk) 07:23, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Just took a while to update it looks like. No longer has it listed, at least not on my end. SempressFi (talk) 08:56, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * IT was simply just some vandalism that took an hour to remove. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">blaze&#95;&#95;wolf 15:32, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

States Eminem died December 10th (its December 9th)
So someone edited his page and added that he died on December 10th, yet it’s December 9th. 190.181.212.79 (talk) 15:09, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I've reverted it as it's vandalism and a violation of WP:BLP. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">blaze&#95;&#95;wolf 15:13, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * but eminem isn't dead? Bonugg2 (talk) 20:06, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Read what I said. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">blaze&#95;&#95;wolf 20:07, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ohhh my apologies, i misinterpreted as "states he died 10th when he died 9th". my bad Bonugg2 (talk) 20:18, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

just says kim
on eminems legal issues when the article mentions him talking about Kim Mathers sl1tting her wrists but instead of saying "kim mathers" it just says "kim" someone please fix. Bonugg2 (talk) 20:04, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ --FMSky (talk) 23:40, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Why can't I add singer
He is a singer! Merv Mat(talk) — Preceding undated comment added 18:35, 17 January 2024 (UTC)


 * you tube 41.114.228.62 (talk) 01:30, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Attribution
Text and references copied from Eminem to Lincoln High School (Warren, Michigan). See former article for a list of contributors. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 13:07, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Eminem Forntite Outfit
Someone needs to fix the article and add the fact that he now has his own FN (fortnite) outfit. Check his X profile: he's literally posted it there. 69.156.199.98 (talk) 16:10, 11 December 2023 (UTC)


 * That's not something that's notable enough to include in the article. Basically everyone is getting a Fortnite skin at this point. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">blaze&#95;&#95;wolf 16:24, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Him having a Fortnite outfit isn't a good enough reason to add it. Iron Man/Tony Stark has one, he doesn't have a paragraph on HIS article saying he does, no Marshal doesn't need one.  Babysharkboss2 was here!!  ( Talking Head's ) ( Goo Goo Dolls ) 14:51, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * okay i guess that's fair. thank you! 69.156.199.98 (talk) 15:04, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * no prob, if you have anymore questions, just ask 'em! Babysharkboss2 was here!!  ( Talking Head's ) ( Goo Goo Dolls ) 15:06, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 December 2023
Make some changes about our current Eminem. WP-CONTENTfj (talk) 06:39, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 06:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 January 2024
Hello, I would like to change something in the part "1997–1999: Introduction of Slim Shady, The Slim Shady LP and rise to success". Could you please change the text where Eminem is performing with Proof from "Eminem and Proof performing in 1999" to "Eminem and Proof performing in 1999 in Munich"? Thank you very much. FlxDerEchte (talk) 14:47, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * done but idk if its really necessary --FMSky (talk) 15:58, 9 January 2024 (UTC)