Talk:Emma Stone

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stone recently announced that she would prefer to go by her birth name Emily, rather than Emma. the Wikipedia page should change to reflect this. 81.107.189.48 (talk) 17:42, 26 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I agree, with Emma Stone redirecting to it. I came to this talk page specifically to see how Wikipedians would deal with this conundrum. Should an article about a notable person be of the same name they are most widely known by, or by the name they prefer?
 * It seems clear to me that in this case Emily's preferred name may win out simply because it is also their birth name. 82.7.129.10 (talk) 22:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree. Article refers to her full name at start of the text so the title should be changed to reflect her wishes. 78.17.187.225 (talk) 07:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not opposed to the change, but we should maybe wait a little before changing her name in the article. It's not yet clear if people are going to call her Emily or stick with Emma. As per Wikipedia's guidelines, an article name may still refer to someone with their old name if people are more likely to associate them with that name (see Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam's name). We should wait and see how the media and people call her in the next weeks and then decide to change the name or not. Saidjk (talk) 01:12, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Deadnaming hurts. Hektor (talk) 10:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I agree with this also. We generally don't hesitate to change names as soon as people name a preference, and Emily is already her birth name so it's hardly a radical change. Owen (talk) 01:41, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I mean, sort of is when Emma is still the WP:COMMONNAME and despite what she has stated she is still being regularly referred to as Emma Stone in the news and on promotional material for her upcoming films. Rusted AutoParts  16:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:NAMECHANGES is the relevant policy, which instructs us to follow the reliable sources written after the announcement of the change. The current state is that WP:DEADNAME only applies to transgender and nonbinary people—or Cat Stevens and Kanye West would not be under those names. Nardog (talk) 21:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That policy is for subjects who undergo a name change, which does not apply here because "Emily Stone" is her legal AND preferred name. I agree that DEADNAME does not apply ("Emma Stone" is not a deadname), but I do think we should put strong weight on what an actor prefers to be referred to. By retaining Emma simply because it is dominant in media, Wikipedia contributes to the problem and makes any adjustment in representing her name that much more difficult. Note that recently a reporter DID refer her to Emily, and she thanked him for doing so, but he was immediately "corrected" and has even received backlash from people who didn't realize Emily was her preferred name. Owen (talk) 22:56, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It does apply if she changes her professional name, what she goes by. It did when Thandiwe Newton started going by her given name. If she changes what she goes by, the new name will show up in whatever press releases that mentions her and media will immediately comply. And even if they don't, it'll eventually show up in credits, but we don't seem to have sources confirming she is indeed changing what she goes by professionally, or what it will be. Nardog (talk) 01:04, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:COMMONNAME still plays a role here. As established up above, despite the initial source and that interview, she’s still being mentioned in media as Emma Stone, still being represented in her films promotions as Emma Stone. She may prefer people interacting with her in public to call her Emily but unless going forward she is credited as Emily Stone in future films or promotion it would be incorrect to relocate the page. Rusted AutoParts  01:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

I did make a minor change to link "anglicized" for "Her paternal grandfather, Conrad Ostberg Sten, was from a Swedish family that anglicized their surname to "Stone". She also has German, English, Scottish, and Irish ancestry." After all, that refers to her last name rather than her Emma/Emily preference (as discussed here), and Stone is indeed her birth name rather than the change made by her grandfather. Gprobins (talk) 18:35, 26 May 2024 (UTC)