Talk:Empress Dowager Ci'an

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Despite being absurdly detailed, there is no indication of the source of any of the material in this article. The tone is clearly aggressive, makes unsourced claims about the character and behaviour of persons who lived and died over a century ago, and contains very little by way of straight fact and nothing by way of expert opinion. I am inclined to put it up for deletion, along with the others in its timeframe, unless someone with some knowledge of the era can work on it. Kabuki dreams (talk) 19:51, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Please Don't Delete. "The Past is Not Even Past."
I come to this point out of curiosity over the fact that Google Translate, the computer application, is ambiguous in its translation of 慈安. In different contexts, it has given me Cian, Cixi, and in a feat of AI diplomacy, just plain Ci. The historical question at issue here is whether the Cian discussed in this article was a power behind Cixi, the power behind the actual throne, in the dying years of the Qing dynasty. The poster above suggests deletion -- and it is the position of a forceful faction out there that she did not exist. This is clearly false. This is all slightly more than a matter for amusement: Mei Ling, Madame Chiang, no longer looks down on us from her lofty aerie in New York. The Republican Senate Leader, Mitch McConnell, however, is married to a member of the banking arm of that ver-ree interesting family. And they are, in a sense, a continuance of the Imperial thread of historic power. The fat lady probably hasn't sung yet. David Lloyd-Jones (talk) 10:30, 13 April 2019 (UTC)