Talk:Endergonic

you know me  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.115.204.93 (talk) 12:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Merge
No, I would suggest not merging. 'Endergonic' by itself means energy absorption. Hence, the word by itself can be an article on its own merit. Any process that absorbs energy can be defined as 'endergonic' --Wavesmikey 17:37, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

I have now fixed both the endergonic and exergonic pages such that no merger is needed. I would now request that the management remove the 'merger' attachment label.--Wavesmikey 19:01, 8 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia doesn't have management, at least not in that sense. Richard001 03:53, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Endothermic
Article needs work to clarify the relation of "Endergonic" to Endothermic. What is in the article at the moment is not clear, and I suspect is probably wrong.

An endothermic reaction is one in which &Delta;H is positive, but &Delta;G is negative -- so the reaction can proceed (perhaps there is an increase in volume, or the number of species in solution) even though it absorbs heat.

If it is true that for an endergonic reaction &Delta;G is positive, presuambly this is only possible if there is a subsequent exergonic reaction with considerably negative &Delta;G which is rapidly clearing the reaction products ? -- Jheald 15:54, 26 January 2006 (UTC).


 * Thanks, clarified: --Sadi Carnot 02:36, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Please do not merge these separate 6 pages
The merge debate goes back to '05. The result of the debate was to not merge. Moreover, it is standard protocol, e.g. according to both The Essential Dictionary of Science (Clark 2004) and the A to Z Dictionary of Thermodynamics (Perrot 1998), to have separate entries for such closely-related but subtly-different topics such as:


 * Exothermic – a process or reaction that involves the release of energy; usually in the form of heat.
 * Exothermic reaction – a chemical reaction in which heat is give out.

As well as for the other terms: endothermic, endothermic reaction, etc. For example, the melting of an ice-cube is an endothermic process; combustion evolves an exothermic reaction, warm-blooded animals are endothermic, arguing with other Wikipedians is an endergonic activity, etc. Help us expand on these separate stubs, but please don't merge. Wikipedia has unlimited storage space. Articles are sure to grow. Thanks:--Sadi Carnot 17:29, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Couldn't exergonic and endergonic at least be merged? It's not an irreversible process after all. Richard001 03:53, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Dissolving of ammonium chloride not endergonic
Although ammonium chloride being dissolved in water is obviously endothermic, it's a reaction that increases entropy (because it's a catabolic change). The high temperature and entropy outweigh the positive enthalpy, resulting in a negative &Delta;G and thus a exergonic reaction. Is this right? --Am00nz0r5 (talk) 23:24, 21 October 2010 (UTC)