Talk:Energy policy

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Not to be redirected to Energy development
Deletion of the rediect, by which some useful material on Energy policy was lost is proposed. See History. MGTom 17:41, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

Quote by G. W. Bush removed by proposer
"Our nation is a Pacific country, as well. And that's why the OPEC conferences are so important." George W. Bush (from Wikiquote).

Whereas this is a typical Bushism, as a slip of the tongue it is not quite relevant to the subject. Some people may find it offensive. I initially inserted it. Now I am proposing the removal of this quote. Any other quote charcterising the US enrgy policy is wellcome. MGTom 14:07, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

Energy policy of China
Information about China should be be added. Also separate article on the energy policy of China could be useful. Does anyone have the time and knowledge to start an article on the energy policy of China? See energy policy of the United Kingdom, energy policy of the European Union and energy policy of Russia for suggestions... Beagel 11:59, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Energy Policy: United Kingdom
I don't think this section has been written from a neutral point of view. Two statements in particular need justification:


 * "...the United Kingdom has a historically good policy record encouraging public transport".


 * ... "hybrid vehicle use or ethanol fuel use...... represent the most viable near term means to gain control over rising transport fuel consumption".

82.21.65.109 21:10, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

No kidding. This is a particularly strange sequence of phrasing:

"The United Kingdom has an ambitious goal to reduce carbon dioxide emissions for future years, but it is unclear whether the programs in place are sufficient to achieve this objective (the way to be so efficient as France is still hard)."

I agree, the synopsis of UK Energy Policy is not neutral. I suggest the synopsis is deleted and the reader is directed simply to the article Energy policy of the United Kingdom. --Sunbite (talk) 17:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Arrgh!
So this is the main article for what? the "Energy policy of x" articles? No matter how I hold the series it just doesn't make any sense. I might be persuaded that two articles are needed for some of the largest countries like Energy policy of the United States and Energy use in the United States, but it still doesn't warrant a system discrepancy in the naming and categorization of the articles. What we have here is a selection of particular articles on countries energy policy. Many like Energy in Japan are just "energy in x," which even makes more sense to me. Others just simply need to be renamed like Energy use and conservation in the United Kingdom. I don't know, you would think there'd be a way to make them all consistent, and "energy policy" just seems obscure. -Theanphibian (talk • contribs) 05:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Definition of short term/long term?
Can someone find a definition of short term energy policy and long term energy policy? To me short term means the next 5 years, long term means the next 100 million years. 199.125.109.89 (talk) 21:24, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

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Expanding the Article
One of the previous concerns for this article how to evolve it past a bullet pointed list of countries' energy policy. I think including private sector energy policy is a step in the right direction. I have added the section, but it definitely needs work. By including private energy policy the article can now be broadened. Sections about carbon emissions and greenhouse gases, as well as mentioning the Paris Agreement to some extent, are feasible contributions to this article. Taking the already established formatting, would bullet pointing some major companies' energy policy be advisable? Granted company policies and guidelines change more frequently than a country's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chuongtn (talk • contribs) 20:38, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Removed further reading list
I've removed the further reading list. I think it's not that useful and outdated:
 * Eraldo Banovac, Marinko Stojkov, Dražan Kozak. Designing a global energy policy model, Proceedings of the Institution of Civil Engineers - Energy, Vol 170, Issue 1, February, 2017, pp. 2–11. https://doi.org/10.1680/jener.16.00005
 * Armstrong, Robert C., Catherine Wolfram, Robert Gross, Nathan S. Lewis, and M.V. Ramana et al. The Frontiers of Energy, Nature Energy, Vol 1, 11 January 2016.
 * Deitchman, Benjamin H. Climate and Clean Energy Policy: State Institutions and Economic Implications. Routledge, 2016.
 * Fouquet, Roger, and Peter JG Pearson. "Seven Centuries of Energy Services: The Price and Use of Light in the United Kingdom (1300-2000)." Energy Journal 27.1 (2006).
 * Lifset, Robert, ed. American Energy Policy in the 1970s (University of Oklahoma Press; 2014) 322 pages;
 * Nye, David E. Consuming power: A social history of American energies (MIT Press, 1999)
 * Pratt, Joseph A. Exxon: Transforming Energy, 1973-2005 (2013) 600pp
 * EMsmile (talk) 14:30, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Pratt, Joseph A. Exxon: Transforming Energy, 1973-2005 (2013) 600pp
 * EMsmile (talk) 14:30, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * EMsmile (talk) 14:30, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * EMsmile (talk) 14:30, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Reworking the "by country" section
I am trying to add another table that would show an overview of all the articles that start with "Energy policy of...". This should be the command but it gives me an error message: . Who can help, maybe User:Chidgk1, User:RCraig09, User:Clayoquot? EMsmile (talk) 16:37, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Maybe it's got something to do with the redirects. E.g. the article energy policy of Switzerland is redirecting to energy policy? EMsmile (talk) 16:51, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Try putting in a "prefix=" parameter name? This would make it . Clayoquot (talk &#124; contribs) 20:59, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It will look like this: Clayoquot (talk &#124; contribs) 20:59, 31 May 2022 (UTC).
 * I didn't know about the prefix parameter and I thought it should work now but I still get an error message like this "Lua error: too many expensive function calls.". So strange. Meanwhile, I've replaced all the text blocks with excerpts. Ideally we should balance this with also a country from Africa and Latin America perhaps. EMsmile (talk) 22:00, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Have added Ecuador now for Latin America but couldn't find an easy African country article to take an excerpt from... EMsmile (talk) 22:04, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Copied and pasted above to my sandbox and worked fine - no error - maybe your error was from something else. Chidgk1 (talk) 09:08, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Chidgk1, try pasting it into the article; the error message only seems to appear in the article, not in sandboxes or on this talk page? EMsmile (talk) 09:48, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I've added it to the article and the error message in red has appeared again. I've leave it there for a short while so that you and others can see it (if you're online). Perhaps we need to ask for tech help somewhere. EMsmile (talk) 09:51, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I was going to rename the "in" articles to "of" but I see someone has done so already thus fixing the problem Chidgk1 (talk) 14:02, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Good, it seems to work now. Who did what to make it work? I suppose the articles that were called "energy policy in..." are now renamed or redirected to "energy policy of..."? EMsmile (talk) 11:58, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I just removed one template from this article as no longer needed as all redirects - don't know who renamed or redirected the articles. Chidgk1 (talk) 10:56, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Purpose and methods section
I reworked the start of the article a bit and created a section on purposes and one on methods (previously called background). I think this needs a bit more content to explain to people what we actually mean with an energy policy and what it broadly entails (before going into details in the sections that follow). Some of it is already in the lead but not yet in the main article itself. EMsmile (talk) 15:24, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Long bullet point lists?
How do we feel about the two long bullet points lists that we have in the section called "national energy policy"? I wonder if they are too detailed and also poorly sourced, and maybe outdated. Can we replace this with better content? I don't have anything at my finger tips though. EMsmile (talk) 10:38, 19 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Chidgk1: what's your view regarding these long bullet point lists? Keep or remove/rework? EMsmile (talk) 20:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry I won't have time to think about this. Hope someone else with comment Chidgk1 (talk) 10:11, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hope someone else will comment Chidgk1 (talk) 10:12, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I've now merged the two lists into one list, but this still needs further work. EMsmile (talk) 10:38, 20 June 2024 (UTC)