Talk:Energy vampire

Responses to new space
Im really pleased there is the space for unverified material, opinions are still educational, even re energy vampires of which I know a few and all help is welcome! (unsigned, but by User:81.151.99.238)
 * Actually, no, there is no space for unverified material and opinions are not really educational. See the Verifiability policy. This article is a mess, and everything that isn't supported by sources and facts needs to be taken out. At this rate most of the article will be gone. DreamGuy 16:59, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * If this is the case, the whole article should be deleted; The mere existance of "Energy Vampires" can in no way, shape, or form be verified, and in certain groups it is alleged (rightly wrongly or indirfrently) that "energy vampires" are just a form of mind control. 65.102.43.164 (talk) 18:53, 4 September 2009 (UTC)A REDDSON
 * This article needs to be cleaned up, but it's a reasonably encyclopedic subject that recurs repeatedly in various cultures, such as the Japanese obakeneko. References to folklore and legends are more appropriately described as "sourced" rather than "verified" and should be interpreted in that context. Some of the external links are highly dubious. Zigamorph 17:10 UTC October 3, 2005
 * Unverified material and opinions/beliefs are present on EVERY page relating/referring to all religious topics. Clearly the verifiability policy is lax at best in these areas.  Ron Pinz 16:13 UTC October 31, 2005
 * Not so. Please see Verifiability for how the term is used in this context. DreamGuy 22:49, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Can we find where the term "Psychic Vampire" originated from? and can we change the link from "Energy Vampire" to "Psychic Vampires", which is the more commonly used phrase? The cultural signifigance of mythological creatures that feed off energy is irrelevent. Psychic Vampires have had their Chakra damaged or removed, or altered, (depending on who you ask) which has resulted in them being incapable of producing their own energy, how this is done, can we find that out? Luciferous Luna 17:20, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


 * All "Pshychic vampires" are "energy vampires" but not the other way around so this is a catch all for both. Most of the above discussion is pretty old and refers to a version of the article that existsted before I cleaned it up and removed the inappropritate material. NeoFreak 17:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

African emotional vampire sentence removal

 * i removed a sentence about "the emotional vampire idea is more common in africa etc". i usually dont like to simply delete a sentence but this needs a source. if someone can try to present the thought in a more specific way go for it... Spencerk 21:47, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Less literal meaning?...
I've often heard the term used when there wasn't neccesarilly any supernatrual powers implied. People can be emotional/psychological "vampires" such that when you interact with them they leave you feeling totally worn out and drained! Quite common, in my experience, with people who have depression, manic d, and other mental illness, who take advantage of other people's compassion and get off on dragging them down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.155.56.171 (talk • contribs) 27. September 2005
 * Added a section on 'emotional vampires.'  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raveled (talk • contribs) 07:15, 12 October 2005

Hello I believe I know how energy vampires operate. I have been reading emotional intelligence. This books states if a dominant person has a certain mood this can be transferred to the other person I believe that this may be partly an evolutionary hangup used before the speaking brain came into being for the purpose of communicating our mood to others. When our mood is communicated to others in this way they become aware of changes and possible threats in the external environment. This change in perception due to the other person probably owes something in part to the unconciously mimicing of the dominant persons body language. In the case of a depressed person the individual having a disscussion with them will tune into unconcious cues and receive the feeling from the depressed person in turn the depressed person will on some level receive some of the energy from their interaction with the other person. This leaves the depressed person feeling slightly more elated and the non-depressed individual drained. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.111.149.252 (talk • contribs) 0:13, 28 October 2005

People who are emotional vampires do not necessarily do it conciously. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.111.149.25 (talk • contribs) 20:19, 28 October 2005


 * In the name of Isaac Newton, I banish thee. I am amazed this article has not been deleted.   Tempshill 06:23, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I've also heard this term used in a less literal way, not only to describe situations as per the top of this section, but also to describe people who like to dwell on or dig into the problems or vulnerabilities of others. They often appear sympathetic or come in the guise of problem solvers, but they actually wallow in other people's misery, and seem to get their victims more stuck in the problems rather than solving or salving them. Maybe they should be called schadenfreude vampires ;-). --Anchoress 08:04, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Fact pass
I called it folklore and added several "allegedly"s to try and make it clear that this is a very badly sourced article. "Numerous" cultures? Really? Which ones? The only named culture that has this concept is the Hopi, and the stated source for that is Powaqaatsi, which is as New Agey as they come. Cite sources please when adding to this article! And be specific! Tempshill 06:29, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Folklore
"Psychic vampire" is a modern term used by new agers. It has not historical value and must not be linked to anything else. If you want to make an article about the notion of psychic vampires in the beliefs of the church of Satan and the "new age" movement, then yes it's alright. But the current article has no value at all. In more down to earth terms, a psychic vampire is just someone who wants attention (like a depressed person) but doesn't want to improve so they waste the other person's real energy and time. It's more of a slang word thant something special. Bragador 23:11, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Although it is fairly late to comment for any real conversation, the historical usage of the word alone does not diminish the potential phenomena. Homosexuality, for example, is a fairly modern word to explain a condition of life that appears to have always existed.  Just because the Greeks, Romans, Vedic Indians (etc) didn't use such specific wording doesn't mean the concept is a completely modern one.  No, instead, it is just the term to describe the concept.  74.77.124.236 (talk) 21:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Copied/Pasted from Talk:Psychic vampire -- original page
Each such creature would have a name in each culture. Knowing the names might give us a clue to how much of this is real folklore, and whether any is is ersatz. Wetman 09:36, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * They might have different names in different cultures but I'm quite familiar with this phenomenon. --Daniel C. Boyer 18:37, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * (Uh-oh, just as I feared. Check the use history of User:Daniel C. Boyer. Notice that no actual name of a "psychic vampire" is offered for any culture. Isn't this entry bogus? Wetman 06:06, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * What on earth are you getting at with "use history of User:Daniel C. Boyer"? What are you even talking about?  --Daniel C. Boyer 17:31, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Psychic vampire survived vfd. See: Votes for deletion/Psychic vampire -- Wile E. Heresiarch 15:46, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I would point to the House Kheperu website, and The Psychic Vampire Codex (ISBN 1578633214), written by Michelle Belanger as good starting points to fill in this stub. Thanks for reading.

The stub was replaced with the following text. Besides being POV, most of it is about people thinking they are sanguinarian vampires, and the vampire subculture as a whole, not specifically psychic vampirism. I put it here, so anybody who cars can incorporate it into the main Artice Vampire as far as appropriate. Lady Tenar 15:15, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

overview
The word vampire is concieved in two major ways; the first refers to the fictitious vampire, and the second refers to a complex idea that can be primitively defined as a real vampire. This article will address those who believe themselves to be real vampires. It will also take liberty in defining and explaining Sanguinarian vampires, the sub-categories of psychic vampires (or psy-vamps), and vampyre lifestylers. Because the concept of real vampires is a controversial and generally unaccepted topic, much of this article will explain theories. I would also like to point out that many denounce the use of the term vampire because of the widespread misconception. This article should be read with an open mind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.188.116.65 (talk • contribs) 3. January 2006


 * I think that article recommended below is absolutely unaccepatble as a starting point or actually any part of the solid research into the suggested subject, because it's just unacceptable to brag about abilities to desruct other people's lives on the sheer grounds of "nature". I think that serious personal imbalances lead people to become "psy-vampires". I think that vampire's manifesto is unacceptable as a part of material on phenomenon. Information should be unbaised, if to speak about any serious approach. I hope that Wikipedia would not serve as an engine for vampire proliferation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cherrylanes (talk • contribs) 00:55, 27 June 2006


 * Indeed, theres no such thing as a real vampire, to use such a term is misleading.. as well as to outright say what psychic vampires is and is not, especially without sources, its just biased POV that serves no purpose, not even to have any solid understanding of the concept, its just babble. The closest real vampires refers is a mental condition, in which one believes to be a vampire. Real vampire could also mislead people into thinking that people out there, have some sort of biological need to drink blood or feed on so called "life forces". Which is by all definitions false, no human being can safely digest large amount of blood without have harmful effects, and there is no such thing as "life forces", blood is the life force of living things, and so is protein, but invisible unknown forces don't exist, if they did exist their could be a way to analyze them (and thus do a scientific study). As well as those who say "if you feel someone elses emotions, thats a psychic gift" no its not, its empathy, understanding what someone feels, and thus by doing so can inspire the same emotion in you, very natural, nothing supernatural about it (empathy is directly linked to our eyes, and what we see, not psychic at all). Some people believe that the psychic ability or "third eye" is somehow linked to the Pineal gland (in out brain). That this could be the source of psychic abilities, there is no proof psychics exist let alone a explanation for why its possible. The connection between the Pineal gland and psychic ability is an assumed one carried over from the eighteenth century when it was found to be in a position similar to that of the supposed `third eye'. Once again this has been refuted, no person has yet proved that they have any psychic ability, when guessing what a person is thinking is purely guessing, and everyone has the same chance of guessing it right. This article should contain mythology on the subject as well as a short bit about modern day interpretations of the mythology (all containing citation of course). But remember everyone that this is just legend and its interesting but not to be taken to heart or to seriously, as that can lead to misunderstands. And we need a bit more then whats in the article currently, theres no mention of how feeding on anothers life force allows to feel the emotion that the person is feeling, which is basically a primitive explanation of empathy, I think theres a book on this. The Unbeholden (talk) 15:39, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Sanguinarian vampires
Sanguinarian vampires only have one common trait, which is the need for blood. This is used to define what constitutes a Sanguinarian vampire. Other traits will be discussed in the following subsections.

feeding and the thirst Sanguinarian vampires all meet one criterion; the physical craving for blood. This phenomenon is referred to using many different names, such as the thirst, the hunger, or the need. Blood-drinking is most commonly referred to as feeding. Some vampires may choose to feed from other self-proclaimed vampires, or from consenting non-vampires (humans, donors, prey). In rare cases, vampires will feed from animals. It is considered unethical in the vampire community to feed from an unwilling human. Usually, vampires will use a sharp knife or lancet to draw blood from a donor. Biting is discouraged because it is not hygenic and is very painful. It is recommended that vampires and donors have their blood tested to prevent the spread of diseases such as AIDS, STDs, and other blood-borne diseases. If a vampire neglects feeding, he can experience one of two things. The first is referred to as the beast. This is a very dangerous stage in which a vampire can lose sanity. He will become violent and destructive, may become more apt to taking blood forcefully, or may even develop a sexual desire to take blood from victims. It is fear of the beast that often encourages vampires to feed. The second is a period characterised by withdrawal-like symptoms, moodiness, stomach aches, extra sensitivity to light, headaches, muscle aches, and depression.

auto-vampirism In aggravated cases of the thirst, a vampire may practice auto-vampirism. Many theories exist concerning auto-vampirism (feeding on oneself). Some believe that to feed on oneself is a contradiction of terms; this theory is based around the belief that feeding on the blood of another replenishes life-energy (aura, pranic energy). The energy consumed is the energy lost, so to feed on oneself may only make the thirst more aggravated due to exposure to blood (twoofing, or vamping out; this refers to desire a vampire experiences when tempted by blood). Others believe that to feed upon oneself is mediocre in quality compared to feeding on others, but does stifle the need for blood.

extrasensory abilities Aside from this single criterion, other criteria include extrasensory abilities. These can include extended senses of sight or sound. Some Sanguinarian vampires believe they have abnormal strength, abnormal resistance to disease, and other such superior abililties. In the mental realm, Sanguinarian vampires may believe they can read others' thoughts (telepathy), feels others' emotions (empathy), or move objects in the physical realm through the mind (telekinesis). These are some of the most common abilities Sanguinarian vampires believe themselves to possess.

practices Sanguinarian vampires either seek communities or practice alone. While most choose to feed, others choose to deal with the symptoms of the thirst. In a community, members are often initiated (turned). It is believed that a vampire is either born with vampiric qualities, or else he is turned. Some believe that turning consists of blood transfusion between the born-vampire (pure-blood) and the turn. Other theories are not as distinct. Pure-bloods generally consider themselves superior to turns. However, there is no theory that attempts to confirm the existence of pure-bloods and turns.

theories explaining Sanguinarian vampirism The foremost theory explaining Sanguinarian vampirism states that the need to consume blood comes from a lack of pranic energy (life-energy). Those who believe this theory often consider themselves nothing more than humans with an energy imbalance, but have adopted the name vampire. This lack of life energy could be due to the specific person's physical makeup, the lack of sunlight, the lack of personal interaction on a social level, or the lack of connection to a greater force (often nature). As an analogy, this leaves a vampire empty, cold, and often on the brink of insanity. Prolonged exposure to these symptoms is what manifests the beast. This leaves a vampire with a need to replenish his life energy, and it is said that Sanguinarians do this through consuming blood. Other sources of pranic energy include fresh fruits and vegetables, semen, and the breath of living animals. Admittedly, some people believe themselves to be sub-human, the vampires featured in fictional tales and folklore. However, there seems to be no widespread theory explaining this belief. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.188.116.65 (talk • contribs) 3. January 2006

psychic vampirism
Before begginning, it is important to note that this is a very controversial, yet complex topic, and once again, should be read with an open mind. Those who call themselves psychic vampires (psy-vamps) can share characteristics of Sanguinarians or can be detatched from every popular conception of a vampire. The single criterion that defines psychic vampirism is the need to consume some type of energy. As with Sanguinarian vampires, psychic vampires believe themselves to have a lack of pranic energy. In this type of vampire, lack of sunlight is more likely to cause energetic imbalances than in sanguinarians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.188.116.65 (talk • contribs) 3. January 2006


 * under construction::

Unfortunately, I have a first hand knowledge of how it feels being under an attack of psy-vampire or whatever you may choose to call them. I have to say that it's absolutely awful and damaging experience, to say the least. I have to admit that there should be some original "bond" or connection and I also suspect that there is a certain mechanism behind phenomenon of psy-vampirism that allows vampires to "drag/suck" energy from the others. I wonder as to what that might be... I think that the article(s) on the subject might prove immensely useful to many, who seek to "get rid of" personal vampire (s). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cherrylanes (talk • contribs) 00:37, 27 June 2006

Weasel and NPOV
Well I read the article and I can say I am impressed. It got better. While I still believe it is a non existing topic trying to convince us of it's existance, I believe the article got to a point where the NPOV and Weasel warnings can be removed. Just make sure to change "some culture" to something more precise. Bragador 23:04, 22 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, good for you, but then going ahead and removing them shortly later under the claim that there were "no objections" is pretty silly, as you gave nobody any time to object. DreamGuy 06:57, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Almost true... The weasel one was put on by me in the first place anyway and there are still no opposition but for a subject like this one, it's good to keep them anyway. I was trying to reward you all for you effort. Keep working hard ! Bragador 22:04, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I believe the Weasle Talk warning can be removed now.--– sampi ( talk • contrib ) 08:31, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps the weasels can (I disagree but will not comment), however the article still caries a predominantly defensive tone. This is unfortunately not quite the neutral point of view. Falcon 18:36, 25 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Having both "PoV" and "weasel" is to over-egg the pudding. The article is PoV; we don't need to add all the ways in which it's PoV.  One template is enough; more is just attacking the article without doing anything constructive.  Put it up for AfD by all means (I'd vote for delete), but we shouldn't try to achieve the same result by pasting it with sneers. --Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 00:24, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

External links and sources
Just make sure that the external links section does NOT contain source material. If it does it must be included under the "sources" section. Bragador 21:55, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Biased and Disputed?
This tag is on, yet there's no talk. The goal in Wikipedia should be to resolve misunderstandings, so let's do that. What is being criticized as being biased and disputed in this article? Perhaps changes could be made to remedy it. -Tyciol 19:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Links to relevant information
I'm not a member, and not familiar with Wikipedia custom. So before I do something inexcusable, I will leave the following links. To my experience, most of the following information is correct.

For information on "real vampirism": http://www.angelfire.com/home/darkrealms/resource.html

For psi-vampire specific information, you can go here: http://www.angelfire.com/home/darkrealms/psifeed.html

If you wish to speak with people claiming to suffer from real vampirism, there are those that would happily talk on these forums (both sanguine and psychic vampires frequent this forum): http://p200.ezboard.com/bdarkrealms43343

Lastly, I wish to draw attention to "the beast", as said above. I have not seen proof of this yet (though I admit to having little experience with sanguine vampires), however, that does sound very similar to "the beast" in the VTM roleplaying game, and is therefore questionable (real vampires are very irritated when compared with roleplayers and/or lifestylists).

Its not just the New Age you know...
Its occultism in general dealing with psichyc vamps...

>You appear to be making a distinction that doesn't exist 118.90.45.66 (talk) 04:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Un-needed link deleted
A link was put on there (titled: Energy Vampires' official site) that had nothing to do with the actual subject. It was a band link, btw. I took it out. If you wanna put it back, fine, but say something first and tell us why a band link should be put on a page that is talking about the condition of energy vampires. Disinclination 05:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)Disinclination

Energy Vampirism in fiction
Should the article mention fictional examples of Energy Vampirism? For example, the Wraith on Stargate Atlantis, as well as the Atavus on Earth: Final Conflict are both fictional types of Energy Vampires.

70.17.139.55 18:46, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Some External Links
I noticed that this article contained no external sites operated by those claiming to be vampires, so I added two. Shouldn't they have been there to begin with? Checking out the sites is far easier than tracking down the books that were mentioned. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Asa Hearts (talk • contribs) 03:51, 3 January 2007 (UTC).

Further beliefs
We need to be more specific on beliefs, such as the fact wearing copper bracelets increases one's energy flow. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.253.237.200 (talk)


 * Find a reliable source to back that idea and then cite it when making your addition. NeoFreak 17:45, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Energy Vampirism in fiction
The following list was recently removed from the article. It is being posted here to preserve the information for anyone intererested in seeing it in the future. (Note: I asked User:NeoFreak, the user who removed the list from the article, if he had a problem with me posting the list here, and he never said no, so I assume it's alright.)141.154.162.91 15:27, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Energy Vampirism in Fiction


 * Colin Wilson's 1976 novel The Space Vampires features a race of aliens who are Energy Vampires. It was made into a movie called Lifeforce in 1985 (directed by Tobe Hooper).
 * An episode of Buck Rogers entitled "Space Vampire" features a retelling of the story of Dracula with a creature known as a "vorvon," who consumes the life energy of beings.
 * The Atavus are a race of Energy Vampires on the TV series Earth: Final Conflict.
 * In the film 4D Man (1959), Dr. Tony Nelson had to take the life force of others to replenish his own after gaining the ability to pass through the fourth dimension.
 * In Sleepwalkers, a 1992 American horror film, the protagonists are shape-shifting energy vampires who feed off the lifeforce of virgin women.
 * The Wraith on Stargate: Atlantis are also Energy Vampires.
 * Bugs in the Ark (2004 film) - computer-generated movie
 * The Metroid species in the metroid videogame series, which feed off the energy of living beings
 * Selene, one-time member of the Hellfire Club and erstwhile X-Men adversary, is a thousands-year old psychic vampire who periodically feeds on the life force of other living beings in order to maintain her youth.
 * The current incarnation of Zarda from the Squadron Supreme is an apparently immortal, long-lived psychic vampire who feeds on the life-forces of other sentient beings in order to reverse the undead appearance of her body and to maintain its current appearance as a beautiful, youthful woman.
 * An energy being (later) classified as the Beta XIIA entity from the Star Trek episode entitled "Day of the Dove" fed on the psychic emanations of those who kill and fall in battle; it was even able to resurrect the recently deceased (in order to psychically manipulate them into fighting and dying once more).
 * In Palladium Books' Rifts game setting, the massive influx of magical energies has altered a subset of Earth's human beings into a species known as Psi-Stalkers, humanoids who have minimal need for traditional sources of nourishment but who must feed at least weekly on the energies of other psychic and supernatural beings in order to survive. Unlike most psychic vampires portrayed in fiction, however, they have to physically cut their victim to siphon off the energy that they feed on; also unlike most other fictional psychic vampires, their feeding process doesn't necessarily result in the death of the victim. Many other creatures such as demons also feed on the potential psychic energy (called PPE) of living beings. In the Psyscape world book, a mutation of the Psi-Stalker species called Psi-Slayers. They do not require cutting their victims, but rather, can feed upon death like the Psi-Stalker, or by terrifying their victim to truly thinking they will die. A third called the Mind Bleeder feed upon inner strength points, which are used to fuel psychic abilities. They can use them to power their psychic abilities or temporary multiply their reserves of energy. Unlike the Psi-Stalker and Psi-Slayer, they do not need it to survive, and need food normally.
 * The disembodied, extradimensional being known as Tak in the Richard Bachman novel titled "The Regulators" is a psychic vampire that must feed on the psychic energies of sentient beings -preferably by directly or indirectly causing their deaths and thereafter absorbing their essences/souls -in order to enable it to perform its reality-warping feats.
 * In Eion Colfer's(Author of Artimis Fowl Series) book 'The Supernaturalist' blue supernatural humaniod creatures known as 'parasites' or "UnSpec4" are hunted by a group of vigilates to stop them draining the life force of dying humans.


 * Any idea why that was taken out in the first place? In the current article, it would appear some of that went right back into the page.  I don't know why it was deleted in the first place.
 * Besides that, couldn't the Dementors within Harry Potter be considered a spin off of the Psychic Vampire? 74.77.124.236 (talk) 21:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

New age
I removed the opening phrase, "In New Age terminology..." because it is misleading. I already have a book written by 1925, published in 1928, that describes the energy vampire. Manly P. Hall's The Secret Teachings of All Ages, page CIII: "Realizing that life is maintained by the aid of a mysterious universal life force which is the common property of all creatures, the black magician often becomes an occult vampire, stealing this energy from others." Paracelsus cited non-human entities, Larvae, which draw vital energy from creatures, etc. Lisa the Sociopath 21:37, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Now if you want to indicate who coined the term, find a citation. User:Bradeos Graphon back on December 23rd 2005 added that opening phrase which I just removed over an hour ago. Lisa the Sociopath 22:23, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

The most common usage
Sadly "energy vampire" is usually used to refer to someone who is depressed. It gives a spiritual sounding excuse to walk away from a friend in need "After his mother died he turned into an energy vampire, I had to leave him for my spiritual well being". Think about it this is the way the term is usually used. The "selfish sunny day" spirituality movement, the sort of "enlightenment" that falls flat on its face the first time it encounters something hard in life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.234.209.50 (talk) 21:46, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

A Rare book
Citation is needed for a book that details a link between empathy and feeding on life force. The Unbeholden (talk) 09:10, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with File:AsetianBible.jpg
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 * That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's description page for the use in this article.
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 * You are right, it needs a separate fair-use rationale for the Energy Vampires article. I don't know how to do this, create a separate fair-use rationale on this image for this article. If anyone knows how to do this, please do so. GustavusPrimus (talk) 19:48, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Problem checked and fixed. A new Non-free use media rationale for Energy vampire article was added. Missing tags were removed. This topic can be removed from the discussion page. MarkChase (talk) 20:00, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

In popular fiction
The in popular fiction section may have too many trivial references. While they are examples of the energy vampire concept, they should be considered notable in some way. The best way to do so would be to reference third party discussion of these appearances.--SiIIyLiIIyPiIIy (talk) 07:35, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Determine quality and use as reliable sources
I am pretty sure that all of these have been identified as NOT meeting our WP:RS guidelines and I am very disappointed that they have somehow weaseled their way back into an article. -- The Red Pen of Doom  02:10, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Do any meet our reliable source guidelines???

 * Fortune, Dion: Psychic Self-Defense. Weiser Books Publishing, 2001. ISBN 1-57863-151-3
 * Harbour, Dorothy: Energy Vampires: A Practical Guide for Psychic Self-protection. Destiny Books, 2002. ISBN 0-89281-910-3
 * Hort, Barbara E.: Unholy Hungers: Encountering the Psychic Vampire in Ourselves & Others. Shambhala, 1996. ISBN 1-57062-181-0
 * Konstantinos: Vampires: The Occult Truth. Llewellyn Publications, 1996. ISBN 1-56718-380-8
 * LaVey, Anton Szandor: The Satanic Bible (Avon, 1969, ISBN 0-380-01539-0)
 * Slate, Joe H.: Psychic Vampires: Protection from Energy Predators & Parasites. Llewellyn Worldwide Ltd., 2002. ISBN 0-7387-0191-2

They seem, to me, to meet the guidelines for sources on fringe theories.--UltraMagnus (talk) 06:48, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Rename Energy vampire → Psychic vampire ?
This was discussed in the recent AFD and is easily confirmed as the more widspread term by counting up the sources that actually use the term Psychic rather than Energy. I suggest the move goes ahead unless someone raises a strong objection.—Ash (talk) 16:50, 17 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Apparently, another article on this topic previously existed at Psychic vampire, see this edit where it was redirected without fanfare to Vampire lifestyle. I decided to take it upon myself to restore the old Psychic vampire article and to merge the content from Energy vampire to that location.  Whatever404 (talk) 17:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)