Talk:Engel & Völkers

Advert/COI
This article seemed to have become an advert for this company, but taking it back to something more encyclopedic seems to have just been reverted by a series of Anons/new users. On checking their edit records, there seems a clear case of WP:COI here. Tags applied. --Trident13 (talk) 12:10, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

COI
Dear Trident13,

I will not hide the fact that I have a close connection to E&V. Many of my reverts are due to the fact that I have access to correct info and some parts were adapted incorrectly. Some edits also removed large parts of the article, due to those removals the article lost a great part of its value. This does not mean that I have not made some mistakes such as reverting the relocation of links to a new section called "external links". But do understand my close watch on the page due to the fact that the first page I tried to make was adapted, adjusted, ... by my competitors and therefor later-on also removed. I am always open to critic, to help me further adapt the article into an as neutral possible point of view as I am off course still a wikipedia noob. Nickdeclercq (talk 12:17, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Remove, delete or rewrite US Franchise sections
Sections 3,4,&5 are pretty pointless. Can't it be summed up with just "some US franchises have gone due to...." whatever. The section is probably of no interest to readers outside the US, like me.  Petedavo talkcontributions  05:42, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Engel, crime
Engel holds a criminal record now http://www.bild.de/regional/hamburg/promi/voelkers-verknackt-4334734.bild.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.141.36.133 (talk) 00:23, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Metropolitan Market Center concept?
The article refers twice to the "Metropolitan Market Center concept". Is this something proprietary? Can anyone expand on this? Denis (talk) 11:44, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 June 2019
1fsubb (talk) 17:51, 7 June 2019 (UTC)Change: Presently, Engel & Völkers operates in 39 countries on 6 continents,[6] with a workforce of more than 7,000 people across more than 500 luxury real estate brokerages and 49 commercial offices brokering retail, office and industrial space, investment properties, multi-purpose apartment and office blocks and property portfolios offer both private and institutional clients. To; Presently, Engel & Völkers operates in 33 countries on 4 continents, with a workforce of more than 11,000 people across more than 800 luxury real estate brokerages and 49 commercial offices brokering retail, office and industrial space, investment properties, multi-purpose apartment and office blocks and property portfolios offer both private and institutional clients.

Source: https://www.engelvoelkers.com/en-de/company/about/
 * Yes check.svg Done The source says 30 countries, so that's the figure I used in the article. NiciVampireHeart 22:45, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 February 2020
The firm has around 520 residential property offices and 49 commercial offices brokering retail, office, industrial space, investment properties, multi-purpose apartment, office blocks, property portfolios,[1] and ranch land property source: https://evranchland.com/about-us/ Thomas.Ruyle (talk) 14:54, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  JTP (talk • contribs) 17:30, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Update(s)
The article has not been updated for quite some time. Therefore, we have provided a translation from German Wikipedia. This can be found here in our user namespace. We hereby propose it for adoption, as it also contains a lot of more reliable references. Feedback is very welcome. -- AH at Engel &#38; Völkers (talk) 06:22, 18 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Since no feedback was received, we have published the update. It contains significantly more references from independent sources. We keep the conflict of interest notice and highly appreciate further community feedback. -- AH at Engel &#38; Völkers (talk) 07:33, 24 February 2021 (UTC)


 * You should have tagged this as an edit request, then it may have gotten attention. As such, I find the comment above to be a misrepresentation; the new version has little resemblance to the German version (this English version is more "fluffy" and omits the criticism in the German article), and it appears that the edits by the company in that article were reverted. I am reverting this one for the time being. Please re-propose properly. Also, COI edit requests need more than just a week to get a response. ~Anachronist (talk) 07:52, 24 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help. I've just started the formal edit request. -- AH at Engel &#38; Völkers (talk) 10:55, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Rewriting of History
The history section is outdated and consists only of a list. I think it should be converted to regular text.
 * What I think should be changed (include citations):

As far as I understand, lists are generally not recommended to describe the history of a company. (There is even a template for this.) So I have provided a new history section on my user sandbox.
 * Why it should be changed:

I've added independent sources to the draft on my user sandbox (and removed all references to the corporate website). Although they are in German, they come from reliable sources (Handelsblatt, Die Welt, etc.)
 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

AH at Engel &#38; Völkers (talk) 10:53, 8 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I'll leave this edit request open. I note that User:AH at Engel & Völkers/sandbox has some good sourcing but also some inappropriate PR puffery and irrelevant statements, so it should not be used as written, but portions of it could be incorporated into this article. ~Anachronist (talk) 13:43, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done I've added most of the history section of your user sandbox to this article . Some rewording and removed bits. Added criticism in the following edit . 15 (talk) 10:33, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Commons files used on this page or its Wikidata item have been nominated for deletion
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 * Engel & Völkers HQ HafenCity.jpg (discussion)
 * Engel & Völkers Villa, Elbchaussee, Hamburg.jpg (discussion)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 July 2024
amd. = amd. 2603:8000:D300:3650:B4F9:CDFA:C333:6429 (talk) 22:47, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Removed. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 02:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)