Talk:Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem

Latin translated refined to be more accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.205.56.42 (talk) 02:21, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

There's no "she" in this sentence, so it can't mean "the State," although if we were to extrapolate the gender of the subject of the dropped subject in the phrase, we see that it's feminine from the subject in the whole phrase - "manus."

It's only "she" if you don't have the whole phrase and have to include the subject, since in English we require subjects in all cases. Madler (talk) 13:27, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Pedantic and still missing the point. Individuals have hands. The sentiment suffers when assigned a gender(she)or expanded to a group(the state). Consider: One seeks with the sword a quiet peace under liberty 67.175.6.19 (talk) 22:26, 19 November 2015 (UTC)