Talk:Entheogen/Archives/2020/February

Pronunciation?
I assume en THEO gen 74.60.161.158 (talk) 14:56, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * That's how I'd pronounce it. Sizeofint (talk) 16:57, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

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History, "Before Present"
I don't think it makes much sense to divide the entire history of entheogen use into "before" 1950" and "after 1950".  I also don't think the "Before Present timescale is particularly useful here (especially not when mixing BP and BC dates, as that section currently does). Plus, I think 8000+ years of history probably warrant more than just one poorly-sourced paragraph. (Unfortunately, I don't know enough about the subject to improve it myself). Iapetus (talk) 09:29, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Copyediting
In § Entheogen
 * Common recreational drugs that cause chemical dependence have a history of entheogenic use. Perhaps because they could not access traditional entheogens as shamans were very secret with their sacraments who regarded non-visioning sacraments as hedonistic.

The second sentence is massively garbled. I have made what sense of the paragraph I can and marked a problem:
 * Common recreational drugs that cause chemical dependence have a history of entheogenic use, perhaps because their users could not access traditional entheogens, as shamans, considering non-visioning uses of their entheogens as hedonistic, were very secretive with them.

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Many man-made chemicals with little human history have been recognized to catalyze intense spiritual experiences, and many synthetic entheogens are simply slight modifications of their naturally occurring counterparts. Some synthetic entheogens like 4-AcO-DMT are theorized to be prodrugs that metabolize into the natural psychoactive, similar in nature to how the synthetic compound heroin is deacetylated by esterase to the active morphine. While synthesized DMT and mescaline is reported to have identical entheogenic qualities as extracted or plant based sources, the experience may wildly vary due to the lack of numerous psychoactive alkaloids that constitute the material. This is similar to how pure THC is very different than an extract that retains the many cannabinoids of the plant such as cannabidiol and cannabinol.
 * Chemicals

-- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jilja (talk • contribs) 23:00, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey Jilja, I restored my comments above and moved your revised tables down here. Please don't edit other people's comments. Jytdog (talk) 23:10, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * The new table is mostly sourced, can I move it to List of entheogens? --Jilja (talk) 22:49, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not opposed. Sizeofint (talk) 02:43, 31 October 2017 (UTC)