Talk:Environmental impact of the Russian invasion of Ukraine

Wiki Education assignment: War and the Environment
— Assignment last updated by Karanaconda (talk) 18:38, 11 August 2022 (UTC) --- The first five paragraphs lack citations. Can someone add them? Thanks!01:18, 7 August 2022 (UTC)Marcywinograd (talk)

Unacceptably poor content
I reverted to before User:Quorra Rinzler began editing this article, because they clearly don't speak English, their edits were nowhere near coherent, and nor were they written in an encyclopaedic tone with a neutral point of view. *Every single sentence* in the lead before I reverted was either factually or grammatically incorrect, or both. It is not feasible to expect anyone to wade through an entire article like that to bring it up to an acceptable standard. The only possible course of action is to revert, and to request that the user who does not speak English, refrain from editing the English Wikipedia. Bythere (talk) 19:14, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I have modified the above comment to be less unnecessarily personal. This talk page is for discussing the content, not the conduct, of editors. If you are concerned about a user's behavior by itself, you can voice your concerns on their user talk page. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:35, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * This is completely untrue, you are eliminating referenced parts of the article, a few errors in typo and grammar do not amount to this. You also have no contributions to wikipedia besides attacking this article, please, rethink your intentions. JoaquimCebuano (talk) 00:11, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Dear Bythere, I think that once the blocking is over, you should find someone else who supports your point of view on the article. So far, you seem to be the only one. --Quorra Rinzler (talk) 07:49, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
 * As is, I still think this comment is a little too grave-dancing-ish. The more constructive thing to do would be to offer to seek a third opinion, start an RfC or take it to the dispute resolution noticeboard. Daniel Case (talk) 18:50, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
 * They are not making unreasonable allegations, its just trolling with appearance of good intention. Its unfortunate to see this kind of behavior being accepted in wiki.en, its not like that in other projects... User:JoaquimCebuano JoaquimCebuano (talk) 12:44, 10 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I have reblocked Bythere for edit-warring. I do not think, though, that their edits are vandalism as alleged by at WP:AIV. I am not going to get into the middle of a content dispute as to what should or shouldn't be included in the article, but I feel compelled to say that the article in its present state is a mess. The lead alone is an embarrassment of poor English and bad grammar. I hope someone will address that.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:39, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the concerns seemed genuine. Sadly, we've been fooled; turned out to be a (now checkuser-blocked) sockpuppet. The content issues should be addressed though. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 05:39, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I have done the copyediting - hope someone else will check the facts Chidgk1 (talk) 18:36, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Climate change in Ukraine by war
Idk 202.153.47.34 (talk) 11:20, 2 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I don’t know what ldk means but I have copyedited the mention of climate change to read “… international studies of climate change in the Arctic were disrupted.” If you wish further changes in the article and are unable to change it yourself please ask Chidgk1 (talk) 11:55, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Lead needs checking against body of article
I have copyedited the lead as requested. Can anyone check that the content of the lead is properly supported in the body of the article? Chidgk1 (talk) 12:10, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Health damage needs checking
Can anyone check that the statements are backed up by medically reliable sources? Chidgk1 (talk) 12:34, 3 April 2023 (UTC)


 * I have tagged the 2nd para as uncited. Maybe health should not be in this article? Chidgk1 (talk) 16:37, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Health effects could instead be in health in Ukraine Chidgk1 (talk) 16:52, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

The impact of truth on reporting the Russian/Ukraine war
Since the title the "Environmental impact of the Russian invasion of Ukraine" is not balanced, and might be considered to be pushing a point of view, could it not be changed to read: The Environmental impact of the Russian/Ukraine conflict? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.27.2.95 (talk) 16:23, 5 May 2023 (UTC)


 * This is ridiculous. No, there is no need to rename it. The proposed name shifts the accents and shifts some of the blame for the loss of nature to Ukraine. Quorra Rinzler (talk) 16:26, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * agree, zero need to change it. Russia invaded Ukraine and there would be no conflict otherwise. 0lida0 (talk) 14:22, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose: The word “invasion” (as described by my favourite dictionary) literally describes what happened and is still happening. The word “conflict” also somewhat describes it in a broader context, but not as much as the word “invasion”. The Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip (2023–present) isn’t called a conflict either. Therefore I disagree with the proposal to change the title. Betterkeks (talk) 01:13, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Could even change it to Russia's genocide of Ukrainians... also fits definition 46.208.254.165 (talk) 09:54, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Animals
propose we include section on harm to animals. Smth like:

Animals
Cetacea have been a major casualty of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, with more than 50,000 thought to have been killed. The heavy presence of sonar emanating from naval ships on the Black Sea impacts mammals' ability to use echolocation and subsequently impacts their hunting capabilities. 0lida0 (talk) 14:24, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 May 2024
There has been a paper recently published (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cub.2024.04.047) that can be added to the section Animals and Birds. It described the impact on the migration of Greater Spotted Eagles, with birds avoiding conflict areas. This causes a sub-lethal fitness cost that can impact breeding success for populations outside of Ukraine, and the authors theorise that this effect is likely greater for individuals breeding in Ukraine exposed to more conflict events. Can draw wider inferences to other wildlife or birds in this area. CJGRussell (talk) 13:10, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Thanks for bringing attention to this paper, but we need a specific change or set of changes to action with an edit request rather than a general call to include the source. Feel free to reopen this if you can provide more details. — TechnoSquirrel69 ( sigh ) 22:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Sa ne pisam pe voi
Sa ne pisam pe voi cu bolta propagandiștilor.Nu e o invazie ci e un război sustinut pe de o parte de Rusia pe de cealaltă parte de Europa,NATO și SUA și de pisați cu ochi ca voi .Pe mine ma intereseaza daca există sau nu poluare,in rest va puteți după la dracu. 86.126.133.24 (talk) 16:27, 23 June 2024 (UTC)