Talk:Eoghan

"Equivalent" to Eugene
What is the reason for the claim that Eoghan is "equivalent" to Eugene, and what is the meaning of this claim? Equivalent how? The two names do not appear related etymologically and they mean different things. EAE (Holla!) 02:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

"Eoghan is a Scottish-Irish name equivalent to the Welsh name Owen and the Greek name Eugenes" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eoghan "Eugene is a common (masculine) first name that comes from the Greek eugenes" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_(given_name) Erafwiki (talk) 22:09, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Those aren't sources, those are wikipedia articles, and I've read them both. They don't answer my concern, they are its causes. EAE (Holla!) 01:29, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * "2000 David Pierce: Irish Writing in the Twentieth Century: A Reader. Cork University Press. ISBN 1859182585 page 8:
 * Eoghan (Owen) is frequently Eugene, and our own O'Curry, though he plucked up courage to prefix the O' to his name in later life, never discarded the Eugene, which, however, is far from being a monstrosity like most of our West-Britonized names"

- http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Eugene Erafwiki (talk) 11:24, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * That source just says Eugene is a "West-Britonized name". Meaning, it doesn't define any linguistic relationship, it just records the fact that when the Gaelic name Eoghan is West-Britonized, it maps to Eugene.  There is no relationship from Eugene to Eoghan.  One name comes from Greek and means "well-born", the other comes from Celtic and means "born of the yew tree".  I agree that Eoghan can link to Eugene, but any link from Eugene or Eugene (given name) to Eoghan should be worded as weak as possible.  For example:
 * The Gaelic name Eoghan is sometimes used interchangeably with Eugene.
 * or
 * The Gaelic name Eoghan is sometimes translated as Eugene.

or in an ideal world, there should be no mention whatsoever, like the current version. EAE (Holla!) 08:40, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

masculine?
Hi the people listed are males, aren't they? Is the name Eoghan for males only? If so, this could be included in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaborgulya (talk • contribs) 10:50, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Scottish-Irish
What does "Scottish-Irish" mean?

If it is from Old Irish, it is Irish.

If it isn't clear whether it is Irish or Scottish, it should say that it's a Gaelic name used in Ireland and Scotland.

Finally, if anything, in this sort of context the term Irish-Scottish should be used, given all forms of Gaelic languages originated in Ireland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.255.102.16 (talk) 18:18, 25 September 2010 (UTC)