Talk:Eoin Ó Broin

Governing Body
The article states that he is a member of the Sinn Féin's governing body what is this? BigDunc Talk 19:31, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


 * A former member of the Ard Chomhairle so I'll update that. Valenciano (talk) 20:10, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought that was what was meant but checked first thanks for swift reply. BigDunc  Talk 20:12, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

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Blackrock College
Eoin O'Broin was educated at Blackrock College, a private fee paying school in south Dublin. The fact that it's a private school is mentioned in the article. As this is of course a fact (Blackrock College IS a private fee paying school) and there seems to be agreement on this, so I am not sure why there is an urge to remove this fact. Other examples from Richard Boyd Barrett, Paul Murphy, Boris Johnson and Donald Trump all reference their private education and I dare say the latter two wiki's would have had 100 times the scrutiny of this article. Jdaly81 (talk) 23:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Mary Lou McDonald was educated at a private school - Notre Dame School, Dublin - this is not mentioned in her article. It's enough that the fact that its a private school is mentioned in the relevant school article. Spleodrach (talk) 14:38, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * That is an odd interpretation of what I said. Indeed there is a case to add the fact that Mary Lou McDonald was educated at a private school to her wiki as well. Indeed, I see that this fact has been added many times to her wiki, but removed many times as well. Stating that someone was educated privately has precedent on many biographies here on Wikipedia. It is therefore deemed acceptable to the wider community standards, or are Sinn Fein politicians exempt from this? It should remain on this wiki unless a consensus has been reached to remove it. Jdaly81 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 00:46, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Any change from the original article should have WP:CON. As the dispute is about removing content, it must have WP:CON to be removed. I am willing to discuss further. Jdaly81 (talk) 00:57, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I will continue to remove your biased POV. You waited until the article was unprotected then immediately added back in your POV. Stop edit warring or you will be blocked. Spleodrach (talk) 13:10, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * There is no WP:CON in regards this. In fact there has been explicit instructions to direct conversations here, yet you keep reverting to your own edit, without any WP:CON. Jdaly81 (talk) 05:31, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You are a WP:POV pushing edit warrior, who keeps reverting to your own edit. The consensus is to remove your POV. Spleodrach (talk) 08:08, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Please note that this wiki had a long history of stating that Eoin O'Broin was privately educated. It was not until your recent edits that you have unilaterally decided this should be removed. There is no Jdaly81 (talk)
 * It was actually added about a year ago by an anonymous user, so there is no long history of this. There is no consensus for your edit. Spleodrach (talk) 10:35, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It was fine for a year, so why remove it now. As already mentioned, the status of one's school is included in many other Irish politicians and international politicians all over wiki. Perhaps you are uncomfortable with this fact? Ill raise a RFC. Jdaly81 (talk) 01:24, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

RfC: Eoin Ó Brion
Should we refer to the fact that Eion Ó Brion was educated at a private school? Jdaly81 (talk) 01:48, 2 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes This type of information is included in many other wiki entries both for Irish politicians and International politicians like Boris Johnson, David Cameron, Donald Trump, and Emmanuel Macron, just to name a few. It is also a fact and referenced here "He was born to middle-class parents who sent him to be privately educated in Dublin's exclusive Blackrock College." Jdaly81 (talk) 01:48, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * No - The type of school is not relevant here. This is one editors quest to include this information because Ó Broin represents a left-wing party, so they want this pointed out in the article. Also, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid argument. He also went to the Crown Woods School which was a comprehensive school when he attended. Why is the status of this school not mentioned? The status of Blackrock College as a Voluntary secondary school (correct term) is in its article and is not needed in Ó Broin's artilce. Spleodrach (talk) 12:41, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * No While WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is a bad argument since it specifically tells you not to use it like this, there's no reason for listing trivia every time you put down a school. And there's been no attempt to do this to the other schools here or colleges. That would specifically make this bloated. By linking these schools people see they are private schools, public universities, or public research universities.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 15:49, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * No mention the name of the school, but by specifically highlighting that it is a private school, seems to be trying to make some NPOV point. Deathlibrarian (talk) 03:51, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * No The type of school he attended is not important in this article. Sea Ane (talk) 10:37, 4 July 2021 (UTC)


 * No – per Spleodrach et al. Note that if this passes, be careful of the terminology so it is unambiguous to both AE and BE speakers.  Like the contranym tabling a motion (defs. 4 and 5)   private school (AE) can be a public school (BE) in some cases.  Mathglot (talk) 18:05, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * No I don't see the relevance of mentioning that in this article.BristolTreeHouse (talk) 06:24, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I think I am going to go with no for this one.Thelostone41 (talk) 03:56, 30 July 2021 (UTC)