Talk:Ephrath

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''Ephrath or Ephratah is a biblical city in what is now modern Israel. It is on the road between Bethel and Bethlehem, at a short distance from the latter place. It is sometimes associated directly with the city of Bethlehem. In Micah 5:2, the birth of Jesus Christ was predicted to be at the city of "Bethlehem Ephratah." People who traced their lineage to King David came to the area of this town during the census that was taken when Jesus Christ was born.''

King James Version: Micah 5:2 "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting."

''The town of Ephrata, Pennsylvania was named after this town. The modern Israeli city of Efrat is located in roughly the same place.''

I'm posting this here because citation and interpretation were too thoroughly mixed to edit. Comments? Wetman 06:18, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

This page should be joined with Efrat, as they are both referring to the same place. 129.98.196.159

Which Melbourne?
"The town of Ephratah, Melbourne was also named after this town." The other cities are obviously in the US, but where is this one? If you know the answer, add the info and return it to the article. &mdash; Moilleadóir 01:27, 18 July 2005 (UTC) (who lives in Melbourne which doesn't contain an Ephratah as far as he knows)

Cleanup
There's still plenty to be done, including citations for the scholarly opinions.  Tewfik Talk 03:28, 21 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Where has User:Tewfik placed the deleted text? --Wetman 07:14, 21 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I deleted the text I did because I believe that I expressed the same ideas in clearer language, though of course all contributions towards excellence are welcomed. Like in all Wikipedia articles, previous versions are available in the edit history. Cheers,  Tewfik Talk 14:01, 21 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I've fixed the missing linkings that tie together Ephrath, Ephrata and Efrat, for the sake of the Wikipedia reader. Restored deleted sourced information and reference. It was unintentionally obscure. If the ancient site and the modern city are not the same site, that is part of the story, as is the mention in Micah that is important to Christians, though not, apparently, to everyone. --Wetman 07:31, 24 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I apologise for not being clearer to begin with, but the reason for most of my deletions was that the information was referring to the modern Efrat, which no one believes is in the same place as the biblical site[s]. There is no ancient Ephrath, other than perhaps Bethlehem or another location near Ramallah. I replaced the prophecy section, even though it's not so relevant to Ephrath per say. The "Encyclopedia" section's main point is expressed much clearer in the beginning, though I sourced the statement to a similar passage (I couldn't find the original in a non-WP source). Cheers,  Tewfik Talk 08:38, 24 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Neither 1 Samuel 10:2 nor Jeremiah, 31:14 say anything about Ephrath or Bethel. Can someone help me out here? 128.187.122.157 (talk) 19:18, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Ephrathite is never once used to refer to Ephraim. I didn't change the wording because I figure one of the regulars can correct it. Ephrathites are a clan within Yehudah.

The Book of 1 Chronicles 2:50-51 King James Version: reflects that their was a person named Ephratah and a man named Bethlehem that were in the line of Judah: These were the sons of Caleb the son of Hur, the firstborn of Ephratah; Shobal the father of Kirjathjearim, 51 Salma the father of Bethlehem, Hareph the father of Bethgader. The World English Version spells Ephratah as Ephrathah. The Book of Ruth 1:1-2 reflects that Elimelech and Noami were Ephrathites from from Bethlehem. I have read this to mean that Ephrath is the same place as Bethlehem since most places in the bible are named after people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.221.173.63 (talk) 00:25, 6 February 2013 (UTC) Also 1 Chronicles 4:4 reflects: These are the sons of Hur, the firstborn of Ephrathah, the father of Bethlehem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.221.173.63 (talk) 00:43, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Original research
The article is almost entirely original research based on primary sources. If not rectified, said content should be removed.--2.110.77.99 (talk) 04:28, 11 January 2016 (UTC)