Talk:Epic (Faith No More song)

it's
Amazing, nobody knows what it is yet? :P

masturbation? sex? raping?

I think it's life.

--Cacumer 00:57, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I read an interview with Mike Patton where he said that the song has no meaning whatsoever. But I can't find it anywhere, so no way am I adding it to the article... talk about unsourced! -- DocSigma 14:33, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I think I found what you're referring to. According to fnm.com, Mike Patton said the following:
 * I think that too many people think too much about my lyrics. I am more a person who works with the sound of a word than with its meaning. Often I just choose the words because of the rhythm not because of the meaning.
 * There's no other reference to this quote on the web, but I think we can trust fnm.com as being a reliable source on this particular subject. --DrLeebot 00:35, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Hahaha, but that would be quite a good answer! Maybe there's a Google Video or YouTube somewhere with that interview. I think I probably can find some relevant text, but it would most likely not be Mike's own words. Still, no subject / no meaning seems to lead to best stuff about life, remarkbly Seinfeld. --Caue (T | C) 00:44, Thursday 2006-07-27 (UTC)

I think it should be said that at the end of this song there is a piano solo that was originaly done by Midnight Oil, in the song Tin Legs and Tim Mines!--24.15.31.42 03:39, 11 July 2007 (UTC)Angela Taylor 10 Jul 2007, 22:45

"It's It" is an ice cream novelty made in Burlingame, California, south of San Francisco. Under torture these guys will admit that's where they got the idea. Here's a shot of the building, which tens of thousands of people - including some rock musicians - drive by every day: http://www.itsiticecream.com/location.cfm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.40.19.30 (talk) 06:49, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Does anyone else think the voice that says "What...is...it?!" at one point in the song sounds just like Zorak? Mike R (talk) 15:36, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

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Lyrical themes and theories
''Although it was commercially very successful, "Epic" was a very complex and unusual song by the standards of the early '90s. Some perceive the lyrics as a reference to masturbation. The lyrics also possess themes of rape. Other sources indicate that the lyrics may intertwine with people not being able to achieve what they want. Such as an accomplishment or goal. This contests to the "masturbation" conception stated above. Although, many people feel that the video for the song explains the second theory better. Which is not about sexual deviance at all, but more along the lines of people not acquiring what they desire most. For example, the fish at the end who dies without water.''

''There is also the possibility that the song's pervasive 'it' is a variable for whatever is the 'it' in modern culture. Various senses are tantalized throughout the song to give it a broader appeal. Any pop culture trend that disappears as quickly as it appears seems to fit as 'it'.''

This entire section was original research, as far as I can tell. The reference looks promising, but is merely a link to the lyrics themselves, with no hint of interpretation. Lusanaherandraton 06:56, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

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Comments
Hope these help! I've watchlisted here if you want to reply. Cheers, Giggy (talk) 07:33, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not possible to get the original single cover? (As opposed to a reissue cover?)
 * Say the exact release date in the lead.
 * Oh, you do later one. Just say it once in the second sentence.
 * "It peaked at #9" - spell out numbers and use "number" instead of "#" (general practice)... so "number nine"
 * (Check this throughout, except (generally) in discography areas.)
 * ""Epic" has been covered both in concerts and on the Kerrang Higher Voltage CD, a compilation of artists covering other songs, in this case Welsh rock band, The Automatic covered the song." - it makes sense, but it's a pretty tough read. Maybe split to two sentences, or else just reword some.
 * Needs info on recording/production and on the musical content. If there isn't much info out there, just use what you can. (Shameless plug:) My Happiness (song) is a recent FA which didn't have limitless amounts of content available.
 * I dunno if Songfacts is a reliable source.
 * The other refs need some formatting work... just the order that stuff is presented in, etc. You may find cite web useful (or just look at how it's done on other articles).


 * Thanks for the help, Giggy; I've prepared myself a little to-do list called Project FA Epic; I think it encompasses my own observations and the stuff you suggested.


 * If you have ever uploaded an album or single cover to Wikipedia or the Commons, would you by any chance know how to acquire them? I know it won't be at the local Best Buy because this song has long faded into memory almost twenty years ago...Maybe I can download the song from iTunes and download the cover from there. What do you think?


 * --Starstriker7(Say hior see my works) 02:09, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * A little input: the next step for this article is a section on the song's composition (i.e: how it fades into a piano solo at the end of it). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.59.202.30 (talk) 17:25, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

a dump
"Mike Patton came up with the rap idea for this after all of the music was laid out. The rap fills in the holes in the verses and works real well there. For the break section that has the string bends, I kick in my Tube Screamer and DOD Flanger. I wrote the part at the end by overdubbing a bunch of keyboard parts on a 4-track. The fish in the video was brought down by some guy from a fish farm. After we filmed it they threw him back in the bucket and took him away. He lived. We made him famous." Billy Gould from the Bass Guitar Transcription Book for the album, which I've yet to locate more info on. — Balthazar  (T 20:02, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Original research
"This song features a combination of heavy metal with rap, paving the way for rap metal and funk metal." -- certainly is original research, and not very good either. Cf. I'm the Man, from three years previous. A song by a metal band who actually worked with rap artists. Some original research on who the Beastie Boys worked with wouldn't go amiss either, before trashing this article with nonsense.--Rfsmit (talk) 02:48, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Modern Rock Charts
While I definitely remember the song getting played on Modern Rock radio in the Bay Area in 1990, I don't think it ever charted on that specific Billboard chart (http://www.billboard.com/#/artist/faith-no-more/chart-history/4583?f=377&g=Singles). The article says it peaked on the Modern Rock charts at #2. Can anyone prove that? It seems like their only charting songs on that survey were from "Angel Dust" (1992). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.218.125.55 (talk) 02:28, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

PLEASE MIND THAT THE category system of modern rock charts is rather stupid

at that time the stupid classification was not working

well NINE INCH NAILS 1989-92 were not successful on modern rock charts while UB40, ACE OF BASE and others were
 * -)) very stupid

KROQ was ahead of its time and they played this song

WHY ONE HIT WONDER ?
why FAITH NO MORE was a one hit wonder ?

In Europe this song was a Flop it did not reach in the main markets despite UK (#25)

but only 3 years later (1992-93) THE band had at least one hit in europe with im easy reaching the top 10 in many markets

Angel Dust sold very well and at least 500,000 copies in germany alone But why one hit wonder ?

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