Talk:Episode 1 (Ashes to Ashes)

Why is this the default redirect for a common phrase such as Deja Vu? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.28.180.30 (talk) 00:39, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect Title?
Isn't it spelt déjà vu? --Danny Darko (talk) 11:34, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * We'd need to check the onscreen captions, but dropping the accents from foreign loan words is common practice in the UK now. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * No onscreen caption that I could see, but given that the general UK spelling is Deja Vu, not Deja Vue I have been bold and moved the page and updated links.  I have also added a link from the déjà vu disambiguation page. --Deadly&forall;ssassin(talk) 21:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Interesting facts
DI Alex Drake woke up on Friday, July 17, 1981.

The number one single in the UK Charts that week was "Ghost Town" by the Specials. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Onshore (talk • contribs) 03:06, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Gene Hunt
I've added a section on Gene Hunt, but I'm not happy with it. I do think that something about the reaction of both public and critics to Gene Hunt's return may be merited, but perhaps this isn't the right way to do it. --Tony Sidaway 01:15, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Location of "Reception" and other real world information
I'd like to reach agreement on where "real world" (out of universe) information goes on this article and other episode articles.

In my opinion it's more important (because this is an encyclopedia and not a fan site) than plot summaries and other predominantly in-universe material. After all the success or otherwise of this first series will have real world consequences for the actors and crew, writers and ultimately the production company.

For this reason I'd suggest that we put such information above plot summary, etc. --Tony Sidaway 19:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Cultural References section
This is sometimes going to be subjective interpretation rather than a reference unless we actually know the thoughts of the writer.

For example the claim that the rescuing of Alex is a parody of Miami Vice (circa 1984 onwards) is interpretation of the editor.

Similarly - can we get agreement that the previous scene - the rescuing of Shaz - is a parody of The A Team (circa 1983 onwards). In this scene the police use call signs A Team and B Team, and like The A Team there are loads of rounds of ammunition discharged yet absolutley nobody gets injured.

In both of these above there are also date issues, 1981 versus 1983-4. Do we care? If we do, should we re-title the section to 1980s Cultural References? Kluivert08 (talk) 03:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Revert Clicking Error
I clicked the wrong button and started a revert I didn't mean to  do. It seems to not have taken effect,  but I  wanted  to  make a  note just  in  case. Matthew Glennon (talk) 09:39, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

MAJOR cleanup or merge required
A core policy is that Wikipedia is not for plot summaries. Articles on a work of fiction must primarily describe it from a real-world perspective, discussing its reception, impact and significance. The plot summary must be trimmed down to a single paragraph and the trivia must be removed entirely. If this cannot be done the article should be merged with List of Ashes to Ashes episodes. Otherwise the article is open to being nominated for outright deletion and all the content will be lost. McWomble (talk) 13:13, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow. This strikes me as a major misunderstanding of the policy you linked to. Articles should not be SOLELY plot summaries; that does not mean that a plot summary can not be included in an article, nor that such inclusion needs to have such strict restrictions placed on it as you deemed necessary. I'm very taken aback about the loss of this and similar pages since the showing of the first series and the current time of showing the second series, at a time when traffic to pages relating to this series would be reletively low, and many contributors wouldn't be around in that time to object to your sabotage. This page, and similar, should not have been deleted. LS 28 April 2009.