Talk:Equus (play)

Typos
Moving typo comments to here. editprotected

The magistrate's name is spelled "Hesther Saloman", in the box to the right and at the end of the article it is misspelled. LovelyLillith (talk) 01:46, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Uh, just letting you guys know, since it said to do it on here, there is a typo. Instead of saying "his first attraction to horses" it reads "his fist attraction to horses". Could someone fix that? Thanks.


 * I'm clearing the template, as the article does not appear to be protected at present. UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 13:04, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The main article body appears to have been unprotected, but the box on the right side stating the author and character names remains protected (I tried to correct the typo in it tonight and was unable to do so). I'm not sure if I should reactivate the editprotected banner so I will see if there is a response or unprotection before doing so. LovelyLillith (talk) 04:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not seeing anything in the protection log; I went ahead and made the change, but you should be able to edit the article normally - and I'm seeing some IPs who have done so in the past week. If IPs can edit an article, it's not protected at all. It's possible you just had a run of bad luck with some database errors (which are becoming more frequent these days). In any event, I corrected the two "Hester"s that I could find. Best, UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 12:19, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Separate entry
I think a seperate entry is not a bad idea, but leave the same information under the original Equus entry because it is a part of the literaty movement.


 * I agree.


 * yeah bro


 * yes I agree, then the actual literary meaning can be explored


 * Will that satisfy the VSI (Very Self Important) critics and purists?


 * its actually Dan Radcliff that has to go nude, not that other guy


 * I agree that a new entry for the 2006 London revival should be written



Advertisement??
This play is considered a literary masterpiece and has been acclaimed all over the world as such. The idea that at this late date it needs any "advertisement" and the thought that using encomiastic language about it constitutes some sort of commercial for it merely shows the vulgarity of some of the people who write in this site—as in the original article, where much was made of the play's "plot", as if it were popular fiction.

People who do not know the ways of literary criticism should abstain.yo yo yo

How about all the trivia about "who's who" of actors who have been in the play? It is been so widely played that it might be easier to list all actors who have NOT been in this play. This "revival" section has a lot of self-promotion in it. I recommend stick with the plot and the original cast. The movie should have its own page since the page title is "Equus (play)". --74.107.74.39 (talk) 00:12, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Subject & Significance
There seems to be a big chunk of plot summary missing - the section reads like it's composed of beginning and end paragraphs, with the middle deleted. I haven't seen or read the play, so can somebody who has take a look at it? ShaleZero 18:10, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Projected Transfer of "Equus" to Broadway in 2008 with Daniel Radcliffe
I flew to London in May 2007 and saw Daniel in two performances; his portrayal of "Alan Strang" was critically acclaimed by the London Press and discussion is underway to bring "Equus" to Broadway in late spring of 2008, with Daniel Radcliffe and Richard Griffiths reprising their roles.

Playwright, Peter Shaffer, will only authorize the play's transfer to Broadway if Daniel reprises the "Alan Strang" role. Both Daniel and Richard Griffiths have indicated their interest in doing a Broadway run. Scheduling must be worked out so that a projected Broadway production coincides with the 2008 Tony Awards. The latest information that I read was that nine producers are vying for the play, and financial backing is in place. It's all about the timing now because of the Tony's.

Sources for this information include www.playbill.com and www.broadway.com, as well as recent interviews with Daniel Radcliffe, post London production.

--NJM 16:01, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

BFD. Promotional material noted. How long has this play been given, and by amateurs too? --74.107.74.39 (talk) 00:15, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Prognostication

 * The casting of Radcliffe, still associated with films intended for general audiences, ...

I like the way this implies that Daniel Radcliffe's career is over. --61.214.155.14 00:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Aww shucks, someone fixed it. --61.214.155.14 01:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Extended run under Revivals section
Removed the following bit of info originating from the tabloid Daily Mail, and subsequently refuted through other media sources: >> The show has recently extended through the Autumn in London, with Billy Elliot film star Jamie Bell taking on the role of Alan Strang from 16 June 2007, replacing Daniel Radcliffe. Other casting has yet to be confirmed for the extended run. << Bottom line - there's no point to such speculation until the play's own official website bothers to update itself. You'd think they'd manage to find some way to sell tickets for additional shows if they were serious about staging them. Daniloc 20:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Blonde Redhead
Is it really a reference to the play, or merely horses in general? As I understand it, the singer from that band got beaten up by a horse.

-- She fell off a horse in 2001 and came to make one of the best albums called 'Misery is a Butterfly' which was inspired by her falling off the horse. And they havea song called Equus. -Meghan.

Plot Summary
The plot summary seriously needs to be fixed, Alan does not get an erection due to nervousness, it's because all he can see is Equus, he doesn't even know Jill is there. In reference to the text version, Alan does not threaten Jill with an IcePick.

Sexual Content
I have read this play for acting and do not see that the fascination with Horses can be boiled down to sexuality. He worships the Horses as gods: while sexual feelings are included in his reverence, it is not however the root of his feelings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.22.161.100 (talk) 17:26, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

One of the thoughtful contributions of the play is how it opens discussion about the interplay of sex, worship, passion, suffering, alienation, madness, religion, media trivializations, deadening work, and the stifling codes of professional conduct and training. The horses as part of totem worship or as animistic revelation are never (or should never be) "boiled down" to just sexual perversion. That is the move of someone who, from dullness or from ideological motive, wants to stop discussion of the play's ideas. Alan Strang's fascination with horses hints of sexual association, to be sure, but there is no copulation with horses in the play. At the start of Act Two, scene 22, Dysart says that Alan "embraces" a horse: "He showed me how he stands with it after [riding] in the night, one hand on its chest, one on its neck, like a frozen tango dancer, inhaling its cold sweet breath." There is much more hint of sex in the conventional setting of nude boy and nude girl in Act 2, Scene 33, when Alan and Jill intend quite explicitly to have sex, but end up not being able to do so in the "Temple" of Alan's God, i.e., the horse stables. If sex with a horse is what the play is all about, then surely we could have been treated to at least as clear a voicing of that intention in the play as we do in the matter between Alan and Jill.

Furthermore, the idea that Alan would defile or provoke his God by forcible copulation seems absurd, especially given Alan's derision of human manipulation and shallow treatment of the animals: "Equitation: Bowler hats and jodhpurs. [...] To put a bowler hat on [the horse] is filthy" (Act One, scene 13). We aren't even given to know the gender of the horses, so one has to conclude that within the world of the play the question of Alan's copulating with one of them is unknowable or not of sufficient interest to explain what one would think are certain key anatomical possibilities between Alan and "Nugget." Also, Dr. Dysart, in a long and revealingly important speech for him, refers to the boy wanting to become a "Centaur": "I sit looking at pages of centaurs trampling the soil of Argos--and outside my window he is trying to become one, in a Hampshire field!" (Act Two, scene 25). That's the real point: Alan wants to be one with his god, not an unusual prescription among the world's religious practices. If Alan wants to be a Centaur, then having sex with a horse is an unlikely way to make that occur, unless one argues that marriage is traditionally a making of one flesh, but then there is no mention in the play that Alan wants to marry a horse either. Much more plausible is the idea of melding horse and rider, something already mentioned in the play when Alan bridles himself in his bedroom (Act 1, scene 14), and when his mother, Dora, tells him that "when Christian cavalry first appeared in the new World, the pagans thought horse and rider was one person" (Act I, scene 7). Van Piercy (talk) 17:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Success or flop?
I watched the Daily 10 (not a exactly a respected and established news source, I know) and there was an insinuation that the current revival of Equus on Broadway isn't exactly doing all that great. Is the play successful or not? Is it a financial flop? Crackthewhip775 (talk) 04:24, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Unclear sentence in plot summary
Near the end of the plot summary, a paragraph begins with "Dysart gives Alan a placebo "truth pill" and revealing a tryst with Jill, begins to enact the event". The sentence states that Dysart had the tryst with Jill, but the rest of the paragraph strongly implies that it was actually Alan who had the tryst.

I don't know the actual plot, so I can't do the edit myself, but if I'm right, the sentence should be something like the following:

After being given a placebo "truth pill" by Dysart, Alan reveals a tryst with Jill and begins re-enacting the event.

-- Dan Griscom (talk) 14:43, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

I've rephrased the sentence to make it clearer. -- Dan Griscom (talk) 03:31, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

What constitutes a revival?
Randy Harrison played Allan Strang in a 2005 Berkshire Theatre Festival performance of "Equus".

Is this sufficient to have it included in the revivals section, given the theatrical stature of Randy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.3.159.239 (talk) 06:07, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

2014 Canberra Repertory Society's revival reviewed
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/entertainment/theatre/equus-review-canberra-repertory-20140929-10nctw.html 203.129.44.142 (talk) 06:13, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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