Talk:Erdut Agreement

Foreign minister
There is a problem with title of Milan Milanović. He was never foregin minister of FR Yugoslavia, and at the time of signing the agreement he was deputy defense minister of RSK or whatever the sector east was officially called. FR Yugoslav minister at the time was Milan Milutinović. I suspect the confusion stems from similar names and erroneous reports. There is ample evidence Milanović signed the agreement on instructions by Milošević though - page 27555, item I.57. The agreement has four signatures affixed: Šarinić, Milanović, Galbraith and Stoltenberg so there's no possibility that both Milanović and Milutinović signed the agreement. I suppose both signed some agreements with Croatia, but those appear to be two different persons.--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:40, 17 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, good catch. We should fix that wikisource document, too - unless it's somehow authentic. So if Milan Milanović was indeed RSK, did the "Republic of Eastern Slavonia, Baranja and Western Syrmia" ever exist at all then? --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 14:09, 17 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Not sure about the east sector as anything officially named after RSK, maybe so... But the Milutinović/Milanović confusion is quite widespread: ... I'll fix that issue in the Croatian War of Independence, duly noting that the agreement was accepted on instructions by Milošević.--Tomobe03 (talk) 14:12, 17 January 2011 (UTC)


 * An authoritative source for FRY Minister of Foreign Affairs would be http://www.mfa.gov.rs/History/lista_e.html I guess. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 14:12, 17 January 2011 (UTC)


 * If that's not authoritative on the issue, nothing is. As far as Republic of Eastern Slavonia, Baranja and Western Syrmia is concerned, it's not in the Erdut Agreement, virtually no documents found on the internet other than wikis, so I'd say it's not referenced, not noted and most likely it never really existed. That article should probably be renamed or deleted or merged... Cheers!--Tomobe03 (talk) 14:17, 17 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Agreed. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 14:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Page 27551 of the above linked ICTY transcript contains: "Q. And you were appointed the acting Minister of Defence within the Serbian Krajina as an independent, without representing any political party? A. Correct." This was directed to Milanović himself and there is IMO confirmation that he was acting defence minister of RSK, i.e. that the Republic of Eastern Slavonia, Baranja and Western Syrmia did not exist (not even on paper) and the situation there should be interpreted as RSK/UN mandate/something else but not the RESBWS. There are other sources that support that, .--Tomobe03 (talk) 14:29, 17 January 2011 (UTC)


 * To Joy et. al. and anyone else who should happen to read this, the prior concerns have been addressed. The article titled Republic of ESB and WS has been renamed (in Wiki parlance redirected or moved, I forget which) to this article. Also, thank you Tomobe03 for linking to that PDF with the 4 signatories! It saved me a lot of time with Thorvald Stoltenberg's bio as it was unclear what his final role was with the UN after he was replaced with a Japanese man by the French general.--FeralOink (talk) 12:03, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Yep, I think this was followed up on many years ago, but the discussion stayed here as is because there's so little talk content it never needed archiving. --Joy (talk) 15:49, 28 June 2023 (UTC)