Talk:Erik Erikson/Archive 1

Correspondence to other theories
Why is the correspondence to Freud's latency period mention at Stage 4, but no other correspondences mentioned? Should there be a section for how Erikson's theory corresponds to other developmental theories? --Jeiki Rebirth 21:25, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

birthday lapdance?
What does that mean? Is that a joke? That can't be right. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.14.115.135 (talk) 14:28, 28 January 2007 (UTC).

"Even the birthday lapdance can be considered as a tool in that the father uses it to establish that his daughter is now older and has a new status in society and an obligation to men, starting with him." EXPLAIN? --68.125.50.172 04:57, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Generativity
What exactly does the word generativity mean when in context of Erikson's seventh stage of development?

My interpretation has always been that generativity referred to the ability to create and to continue to create and grow, hence being balanced against "stagnation". According to Understanding Psychology by R. H. Ettinger, the stage is dominated by a search for one's goal in life, and for focusing on steps to achieve this goal. DivineAna 20:59, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Critique of Erikson
this section is far from complete -- certainly implies by lack of other information that existing research is supportive vs. the lack of empirical research existing, and the various biases within the theory. I'm obivously new to Wikipedia, and not sure how the base content gets added, but am concerned that students are directed here as a great source, and yet articles appear biased by missing info..... Can anyone advise? Thanks! Susan —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SHP3513 (talk • contribs) 19:01, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

This criticism is true of psychoanalysis in general and a comprehensive criticism may be better reserved for that article. psychoanalysis The "implications" by the "lack of empirical research..." etc., would perhaps be the case for an entry in a self-proclaimed science-based textbook or journal, but I don't think it applies to Wikipedia, which is a general knowledge publication. Cuvtixo 14:58, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Wall of text?
The last several hundred words resemble a fortress of lecture notes. They're not formatted, wikified, or anything. Why is it still there? Deletion suggested. If the content is worthwhile it will be added again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.122.171.93 (talk) 07:29, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, indeed, preposterously long. Randomly breaking up into paragraphs every three or four sentences would be better than nothing. What a donkey!

concerns about related articles
Would people who watch this page please check out the articles Psychohistory and Early infanticidal childrearing? They seem to claim or suggest some relation to Freud. But I have concerns that they marginalize notable (let alone majority or mainstream) views in favor of one person's fringe view, and may present pseudoscience as science. I was once involved in a flame war with one of the principle authors and it would be inappropriate for me to speedy delete or even nominate for deletion either of these. This may not be apparent as someone recently archived most of the talk history. Be that as it may, these are two articles that have somehow been off the radar. I would appreciate it if well-infrmed editors would look at them and comment, or discuss the appropriate course of action. thanks, Slrubenstein  |  Talk 23:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Family
Some aspects of Erikson's family life might be worth including. He was, for example, the father of the distinguished sociologist Kai Erikson, for whom there is a Wiki article. There should be a link. People working on this article might also consider whether they want to mention Erikson's retarded son, institutionalized shortly after birth, friends and family members being told that he had died. This isn't essential, obviously, but biographical information is of interest to many readers.Lolliapaulina51 (talk) 14:35, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I might add: though I've read Friedman's biography, I haven't read the 2004 memoir, In the Shadow of Fame, by Erikson's daughter, Susan Erikson Bloland. I therefore cannot say whether it should be included on the reference or "further reading" list, but it does seem to me that a memoir written by the subject's own child merits some mention. People who write memoirs of their celebrated parents may be simply venting old grudges; but that venting, in and of itself, may open a window into personal relationships of genuine biographical interest.Lolliapaulina51 (talk) 22:58, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

The 'Shirley Temple Spat'.
Perhaps as a matter of curiosity. Erickson once commented on the dancing and stage manner of Shirley Temple. Some how his observations became known to the general public in America. Hollywood found his comments at first surprising, then totally perplexing. This incident did however make Erickson known to a wider circle of the American public.Johnwrd (talk) 18:06, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Inappropriate redirect from "Erick Erickson" to "Erik Erikson"
Right now, "Erick Erickson" redirects to this article. There's a very famous internet journalist named Erick Erickson; he writes for RedState.com. Even though he doesn't have an article, I think it's confusing to have this redirect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.116.59.251 (talk) 09:00, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Source Citations?
Most of the content of this page is the Bio, and most of that is taken verbatim from the bio section of http://www.ship.edu/~cgboeree/erikson.html. If the same author posted the content in two places, that's cool but it should be noted. If not... uh... that's bad, mm-kay? I note that this content was moved from the Erick Erikson page, was the source mentioned there and lost? Zakarria 01:03, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

The in-text citation "(1963)" is not accompanied by any bibliographic entry. That could be the 2nd ed. of Childhood and Society, but I don't know. —Syntacticnightmare (talk) 13:51, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

The Flying Tomato?
Where'd he get that nickname? Possible vandalism? ClayEugene22 (talk) 02:55, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Erick Erickson Version
The following is the last version from the Erick Erickson side of the history-merge, except that i converted the merge-template transclusion call to a plain link; merge text as seems appropriate. --Jerzy(t) 02:44, 2004 Jul 18 (UTC)

Template:merge Erik H. Erikson

Erik Erikson (15 June, 1902 - 1994) was born in Frankfurt, Germany, and died in Harwich, Massachusetts, USA. There is a little mystery about his heritage: his biological father was an unnamed Danish man who abandoned Erik's mother before he was born. His mother, Karla Abrahamsen, was a young Jewish woman who raised him alone for the first three years of his life. She then married Dr. Theodor Homberger, who was Erik's pediatrician, and moved to Karlsruhe in southern Germany.

The development of identity seems to have been one of his greatest concerns in Erikson's own life as well as in his theory. During his childhood, and his early adulthood, he was Erik Homberger, and his parents kept the details of his birth a secret. So here he was, a tall, blond, blue-eyed boy who was also Jewish. At temple school, the kids teased him for being Nordic; at grammar school, they teased him for being Jewish.

Erikson's greatest innovation was to postulate not five stages of development, as Sigmund Freud had done, but eight. Erikson elaborated Freud's genital stage into adolescence plus three stages of adulthood. We certainly don't stop developing -- especially psychologically -- after our twelfth or thirteenth birthdays; It seems only right to extend any theory of stages to cover later development

The area under critique should be cited and needs more clarity. What constitutes "early adulthood" and does it technically occur before or after adolescence. It should be revised.

Is there a possibility of using this version instead of what's out there already on Erikson's early life? The existing article reads poorly and seems to suggest (to me, at least) that he was born by immaculate conception:


 * At the time of her son's birth in Germany, Karla Abrahamsen had not seen her husband, Jewish stockbroker Waldemar Isidor Salomonsen, for several years.

Additionally, there doesn't seem to be anything on Erikson's name change from Erik Homburger to Erik Erikson. Maybe important? --Sciolist TEN (talk) 15:53, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Enlarging bibliography
The section entitled "bibliography" is currently little more than a list of Erikson's own books. Hjelle, L.A. and Ziegler, D. (1981) Personality Theories: Basic Assumptions, Research and Applications McGrawHill (second edition 1992) is quite strong on Erikson. Carltonio (talk) 19:25, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

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i want to know
where is his parents? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.9.41.100 (talk) 13:23, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * there is a section in the early life section of this wiki page where it says ""My identity confusion", he wrote "[was at times on] the borderline between neurosis and adolescent psychosis." but there isn't any information on where or how this specific quote was found from. A following quote states a quote from his daughter, but that reading wise has no connection to this quote. I feel like if someone can't find the origin of the quote then it should either be removed or not be quoted.Morriha01 (talk) 20:58, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

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Most famous for
This article says that Erikson is most famous for coining the term "identity crisis", but I think that is debatable. I would have thought he was most famous for his eight ages of the life span outlined in his book "Childhood and Society". Vorbee (talk) 17:50, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Overall this article gives the basic knowledge about Erik Erikson but it lacks the sufficient information for the reader to really understand who he is. I think the article needs to be checked for its overall grammar, which isn't great. I also think some of the sources need to be verified. The article is organized well but the article seems to have trouble flowing in most of its parts.

Sasloan2 (talk) 22:50, 29 September 2021 (UTC)Ashley

I also think the placing of the sentence concerning coining the term “Identity Crisis” is unusual. Perhaps having more context within the phrasing of the second sentence to ensure that the term “identity crisis” is not necessarily the most famous thing that Erikson is known for?Cor2301 (talk) 23:31, 2 May 2022 (UTC)