Talk:Ernest T. Campbell/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Whiteguru (talk · contribs) 05:59, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Starts GA Review; the review will follow the same sections of the Article. --Whiteguru (talk) 05:59, 17 February 2021 (UTC) 

Lede

 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * I am not sure that pastorates is a word. Not in international usage of the term ministry. Perhaps appointments might be a better choice of word.
 * Pictogram reply.svg Pastorate (plural pastorates) is a word, meaning "the office or period of office of a pastor" per Google or Webster's dictionary, but I've changed it as suggested so as not to confuse or perplex the average reader, as well as expanding the Lede a bit. &mdash;  JGHowes   talk  04:11, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Early Years and Education

 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * Well scribed. The reference to the A.B. degree does not tell the reader what degree or academic award this is.
 * Pictogram reply.svg I've now spelled-out and wikilinked AB degree. &mdash;  JGHowes   talk  04:11, 19 February 2021 (UTC)



Pennsylvania churches

 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * I am not sure of this usage of the word pastored . One serves as a minister, one minsters. Ordination to the Presbyterate is not served as pastored .
 * Pictogram reply.svg I've now wikilinked Ordination to clarify that in the Presbyterian church, ordination as "pastor" is one of the threefold orders of ministry. However, its use as a past-tense verb may be confusing, so I've reworded the article accordingly to only use "pastor" once, as a noun to avoid repetitiveness.  JGHowes   talk  04:11, 19 February 2021 (UTC)



First Presbyterian Church, Ann Arbor, Michigan

 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * Link 15 is an excellent resource.
 * ditto pastored . One serves as a minister, one minsters. Ordination to the Presbyterate is not served as pastored .

Riverside Church, New York City

 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * I was ordained at this Church.
 * This is a good section, well scribed.
 * Finishing with Bicentennial Day is a good flourish.

Later years, legacy and death

 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A good summary of a life well lived.

End Matter

 * 1) Is it is Broad in its coverage?
 * For an ordained minister of religion and his appointments in different states, and his rise and rise to prominence as a preacher - on radio - and that the pulpit, this is good, netural POV coverage.
 * 1) Is it Verifiable with no original research?
 * Yes, all reference verify content in sections
 * 1) Does the article meet notability guidelines?
 * Yes, article meets general notability guidelines along with those given at WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES
 * 1) Does it follow WP:NPOV Neutral Point of View?
 * Quite so.
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * This article came to life on 31 January 2021.
 * To date, the article has had 2797 page views
 * The page has had 21 edits from 8 editors
 * 1) Does it follow WP:NPOV Neutral Point of View?
 * Quite so.
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * This article came to life on 31 January 2021.
 * To date, the article has had 2797 page views
 * The page has had 21 edits from 8 editors
 * To date, the article has had 2797 page views
 * The page has had 21 edits from 8 editors

* JGHowes * all remaining editors have 1 edit each.
 * 1) Top editors are


 * 1) It is illustrated by images ?
 * There are 3 images on the page, appropriately placed.
 * Image of Campbell is non free with fair use rationale: source = Archive photo from the 1960s at https://www.trcnyc.org/history/
 * Image of Broadway Presbyterian Church is attributed to GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2
 * Image of Riverside Church Tower is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International
 * All images are appropriate to the article.

Overall

 * Comment: This article was submitted to DYK on 14 February. I am under the impression that DYK nomination is normally given after GA Review??
 * A well scribed article of an important Presbyterian minister in the life of the Presbyterian Church in the US.

Conclusion

 * Some language issues are raised. May we discuss?
 * The A.B. degree ?

--Whiteguru (talk) 03:39, 18 February 2021 (UTC) Your consideration of the abovementioned issues is requested. --Whiteguru (talk) 02:49, 19 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Pictogram reply.svg Many thanks for your review. I joined Riverside while Rev. Campbell was senior minister and he made a profound impression on me. I've replied above to the review and have made some article edits accordingly (see ). The DYK was submitted as a "New" article only, not as a (potential) GA.   JGHowes   talk  04:11, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for your edits, all of which are appropriate and accepted. (And thanks for reaching out to the average reader...) This is the only article where I have a personal connection to the Church mentioned therein. And yes, most certainly Rev. Campbell was an inspiring preacher and made a profound impression upon many, yourself included. You were lucky, then. --Whiteguru (talk) 04:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)