Talk:Erotomania

In fiction
I am unable to find the short story by Joshua Ostrander referred to in the "Erotomania in Fiction" section. Could someone provide the publication info?

Incidence
Doesn't sound rare to me. Maybe i'm rare. Where could a person get this published paper? --Cyberman 02:11, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Clerambault
Hmm. de Clérambault (e acute) or de Clerambault (just e)? When there is an accent, most sources have the acute accent. However, most sources don't have the accent, including most French ones. Can any native French speakers help out? -- Karada

English sites that bother spell out his entire name, Gaëtan Gatian de Clerambault, never seem to use an é, even though they go to all the effort of making sure they have the ë in his first name. But French ones seem to be about 50:50. So what is correct? -- Karada

Hmmm... sounds to me like the accented one is a misspelling.

Cite for Les psychoses passionelles
Re Les psychoses passionelles - a proper cite appears to be:
 * De Clerambault, G. "Les psychoses passionelles" (1921). Ouvre Psychiatrique. Paris, Press Universitaires de France, 1942.

That is to say, he wrote it in 1921, and it was printed in a book published in 1942. (Note that de Clerambault committed suicide in 1934.)

Etymology
In the style of other articles about disorders, this could mention the source of the term (Greek? Latin?). PeepP 18:43, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

This is a hoax
Ian McEwan has admitted that he made all this up - see for instance - Fooled You Guardian article I suggest that this article should be clearly signposted as such ! -footie 23:41, 16 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi there,


 * McEwan made up the fake article in the back of the novel Enduring Love, but the condition itself is indeed real and has been discussed widely in the medical literature (as the references show) and is listed in the DSM.

I finished reading'Enduring Love' this Mornin and although I am now the age when my mother was  suffering  her delusions, it is the first time in my life that I have heard of her madness  [ that is how I always referred to it as a then  teenager]having a  name and a diagnosis. It began when she was 41years old and endured to her death at 59. She was married twice, had children with both men, yet it came upon her suddenly. I met the object of her passion- once on my father's request and once on hers. A miserable business. Is there any evidence to suggest that erotomania can be genetically inherited? My sister and I are obviously interested in this.


 * - Vaughan 07:36, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Jon Lovitz' "The Pathological Liar"
By definition, the eponymous "liar" is not deluded, he is simply lying, exaggerating his sexual prowess with famous women for self-aggrandizement, not because he is psychotically deluded about the true nature of his relationship with the women in question, he is instead pathologically inclined to lie and tell grandiose stories to impress others. As amusing as Lovitz' portrayal is, it is manifestly not a case of erotomania, which would change the entire premise of the character and the comedy bit in question.

Therefore, I have removed it. 71.100.167.23 (talk) 06:28, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Clinical erotomania deals with delusional beliefs only
ie, the delusional belief that someone is in love with you. It may or may not be the case that you also are in love with this other person.

I came down with this condition suddenly in the middle of my school year and had to drop out because of it. In my case, I did NOT want the attention I thought I was getting from strangers. It was a terrible, bizarre, and traumatic experience. 207.237.41.202 (talk) 09:20, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Is this even a real disorder?
Seriously, who hasn't thought at some point that someone liked them but it wasn't true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.161.205.151 (talk) 22:34, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * As someone who has both experienced the sense of someone else possibly liking you (normal state) AND a delusional psychosis (crazay state), I can tell you the two are completely different in magnitude and in characteristic. 207.237.41.202 (talk) 11:09, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Is this even a real disorder?
I do not think it is a disorder many have thought a person loved them but it was not the case.sometimes the person is insecure so they like the affection from the person but does not like whom the person is the person brakes the others heart to make himself feel better--Sweetheart2009 (talk) 22:11, 5 July 2009 (UTC)sweetheart2009


 * The situation that you have just described is not a disorder. Erotomania, however, is a rare type of psychosis. Roastporkbun (talk) 17:03, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Believe me. It's real. It wrecks lives, mostly those of the affected person's family. And it vanishes as suddenly as it comes. --Bluejay Young (talk) 09:53, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

What about?
What if someone delusionally believed someone was in love with them, but didn't feel in love back to that person and so started sending them letters telling them to leave them alone? Is that still Erotomania.

Alternatively what if they don't think the person is in love with them, but they don't care because they believe if they send the person letters and act in love with the person then the person will become in love with them?

Hypersexuality
According to several second definitions found at the site listed below, erotomania can be a form of hypersexuality. http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Erotomanic 70.245.212.70 (talk) 18:04, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Personality disorders
Is erotomania comorbid with personality disorders? If so, which ones? Jim Michael (talk) 12:03, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

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Comment re: Fatal Attraction
I haven't made any change to the article, but as a psychologist I'd like to point out a error (that probably won't make much difference to most readers): Glenn Close's character in Fatal Attraction did NOT exhibit erotomania. She exhibited borderline personality disorder, with probably features of some other disorders as well (paranoia, anxiety, depression, etc.). Erotomania would require the delusional belief that Michael Douglas' character was in love with her. She was quite aware that he wanted nothing more to do with her -- she just wasn't going to take "no" for an answer. Her BPD drove her to stalk him and escalate her revenge against him and his family. But she did not labor under the delusion that he had a burning desire for her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8807:4080:10C:C0D2:5438:5ED7:CD4C (talk) 01:22, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

ICD-10
Just gone to add the ICD-10 code, but it classifies "excessive sexual drive" – this doesn't seem to tally with the article. I'm not sure if it's a case of the ICD being out-of-step with the DSM, my being a lay-reader, or something else. So thought I'd post first before blindly adding the ICD-10 code. Little pob (talk) 17:59, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Ridiculous illustration
Why is this scientific article prominently illustrated with an image from a 19th century book of pseudoscience? It is not respectful of people suffering with this disorder, instead reinforcing stereotypes of “crazy people”. ScottMainwaring (talk) 16:41, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I've removed it as likely misleading. Crossroads -talk- 04:07, 24 April 2021 (UTC)