Talk:Erwin Lutzer

There is no Copyright Violation
I restored the article. It's incredibly obvious, if you take the time to look, that the article was originally on Wikipedia and then scraped to | http://quotes-of-wisdom.eu/en/author/erwin-w-lutzer/biography. They even copied the familiar Wikipedia format of "early life" and "career" as headings.

Also, you can see that the article in its finished form was the result of many Wikipedia edits culminating in the final version, not simply copied and pasted from the above website.

Last, the Wikipedia article was completely footnoted and the scraped one was not. I hope that newbies will do some research next time before making such flagrant, unverifiable claims.

I have emailed the site in question and asked them to take down the content they scraped from Wikipedia. I cannot guarantee that they will do so, but let this discussion page stand in case anyone else comes through here doubting the original source. Westmorelad (talk) 02:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I find it ironic that you completely removed (arguably against policy) my comment from over a week ago stating basically what you said&#151;I indeed made an egregious error in marking the article as a copyright violation, due to being in a hurry at the time; I quickly discovered it and explained on this talk page that I had categorized the page as a copyright violation erroneously and why it was in actuality not a copyvio. I also explained the error on the copyright problems page, hoping that doing so would lead to speedy removal of the copyright violation notice.  I did not remove the copyright violation notice because I suspected it would go against policy for me, as a non-admin, to remove the notice once it had been posted, and I didn't want to commit another error in trying to fix the first one.  I apologize for the confusion but am disappointed in your angry reaction to an honest mistake.  CarLuva (talk) 03:23, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I was shocked the first time I posted a picture to Wikipedia and didn't know the right copyright option to choose. Within minutes a mod had come by my talk page and lambasted me for the mistake. It's sort of how things work around here, right or wrong. The one good thing is, it makes you super, super careful about any changes you make in the future. Westmorelad (talk) 05:39, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Early Life
I have a question about what I believe to be a minor error in this section. Specifically, I'm curious what the source was on his degree from Dallas Theological Seminary. His education is not mentioned on the Moody Church site referenced at the end of the paragraph, and according to his bio on CBD's site (admittedly not an authoritative source, which is why I wanted to check if you had a better source for the M.A.), Dr. Lutzer's degree from that institution is a Th.M., not an M.A. Basically a technicality, but we should make sure it is accurate. CarLuva (talk) 23:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I think they are just different ways of saying the same thing: a Th.M. is a Master's (MA) in Theology. Feel free to change it and footnote the Christian book site, if you really want to. Westmorelad (talk) 05:41, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Finally got around to changing this. See the article on Th.M. to verify that they are not at all the same.  CarLuva (talk) 03:39, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Red Links
I added a lot of new links to this article, several of which are red. Not sure what the prevailing opinion on redlinks is presently. I don't feel strongly either way, so if anyone really dislikes them, I won't complain if the red links are removed. CarLuva (talk) 03:41, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Winnipeg school name
Winnipeg Bible School was renamed to Providence in 1992, (Providence - About us) and there already is a wiki page for Providence. Should there be a note here saying that the name changed? Or should that be on the Providence page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ConstRepublic (talk • contribs) 15:30, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Left Behind Dramatic Audio
Wasn't Erwin part of the Left Behind Dramatic Audio series?--BigMac1212 (talk) 19:02, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Afraid of Dying
I was brought up as a Catholic. But I was abused from a very young age qbout 3 or 4 years old. Violent abuse and sexually abused lived outside in all weather's and washed myself in cold water in a bucket. Ok. I stole money. Fruit. Biscuits from the home. I shoplift for Biscuits and sweets. There were four of us in the Family. 3 boys and 1 girl. But was the only one who was Abused. I not sure why. But I stole because I couldn't get what my Sister was getting. I have done bad things in my life. Like Stealing. Hurt Animals which I very much regret. I haven't killed them. But can't handle them. I've always had Dogs. I don't harm them now like I did 20 years ago. I am very vulnerable and that has made me not who I am. I believe that its my up bringing as I've always been Scared of my Parents and so I trust people very quickly. I think they understand my up bringing. But I was wrong. I don't socialised very much now as I have lost trust in people. I looked up to my Wife's parents when I met them. I told them my story about my up bringing. But that was a mistake. As I ended buying there house as I was going through Compensation with an Accident I had at work. This is where we had Animals and when we go to bed the little one would Howl. I hate myself what I did. But that I feel I have no control over myself but others control me. But my Mother was a strong Believer in God. Always went to Church. And I always said my Prayers everyday without Fail. Only Me. No one else. I hated saying my Prayers in the summer. As I was naked my mother would hit me with her hands then floor cloth and then thrown into nettles. Because I struggled saying words in my Prayers. I've had nettles in my Face lots of times. In my Trousers. And thrown in them naked. I could go on. But because I've Done Bad I am now going to be thrown into the Flames Fire. HELL. I wish I could commit suicide. But I'm not going to Rest. What hope do I have. Jesus died on the cross for our Sins. But then he sends me to Hell. I am so worried. 185.78.129.80 (talk) 06:33, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * The things you experienced were not of our loving Father God . God loves and forgives you. Rest in this knowledge and go forward and know you are loved. Forgive those evil deeds and leave them behind forever. Bless you 2601:447:CD7E:8240:E138:9295:131:2B74 (talk) 14:55, 30 December 2023 (UTC)