Talk:Esata

Speedy?
I don't know much about this language myself. But the VfD discussion that led to deletion was almost two years ago. I wonder how much time should pass before an article that has been deleted cannot be speedied anymore (except of course when it is obvious nonsense, which is clearly not the case here).

I do remember that there is something about Esata that might make it notable enough for inclusion, but I can't remember what it was. I'd like to hear that first. Instead of a speedy deletion, I'd much prefer a proper AfD discussion here.

In addition to that, I should also point out that Esata has been on the "Things you can do" list of the Constructed Languages Portal. I didn't put it there myself, and asked several times for people to review that list, but no response whatsoever. In any case, once someone takes the effort of writing a requested article, I don't think it's elegant to delete is just like that. &mdash;IJzeren Jan In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij  12:30, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of past deletion...
You should know I'm a relative newbie to Wikipedia, and this is the first article I have created in the English version. I did not even know that the "conlang community" existed until 6 months ago, let alone Esata, and before then only knew of Esperanto.

I think more people who are somewhat knowledgeable need to contribute for this to be an informative article. I have wanted other people's perspectives on Esata since I discovered it a couple months ago, and figured Wikipedia was a good place where conlangers lurk and would be able to fill in the gaps of my ignorance. I remembered to "be bold!" and this was my attempt.

I created the Esata article because it is the only language I have come across that actually simplifies English where it actually still sounds like English. As far as I know, it is the only conlang that is somewhat of a pidgin between English and "every language that is not English" (thus, a link to the Esata article from that page seems like a good idea). I discovered it through a Gmail ad, and figured other people would have more to add. I'm not a linguist, nor do I have time at the moment as I am in the midst of final exams, but I figured people more knowledgeable than me would be able to say more and verify what "seems to be the case" to me, not that what little info I had posted would speedily be taken away! From what I've been able to read, this article does not meet speedy deletion criteria, and the only thing going for it is that it was deleted in the past. This article also exists in another language (see the interwiki link). Shall we suggest they delete their article very speedily too?

Since I am a relative newbie to article creation, please post some info on my usertalk page so I don't make a similar mistake in the future. Thanks! - Doubleg 21:45, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It occurs to me that, if Esata is the first language to include certain features (some are noted above), does that make it "notable"? Or are Wikipedia articles created and kept based on how popular or well known something is?  I am seriously curious where the line is. - Doubleg 22:03, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


 * It would really help if some other sources were cited. See Citing sources and Verifiability, and in particular Reliable sources.  http://www.beginnersgame.com/esata.html is useful but a Secondary source that has been peer reviewed would help to give some weight.
 * Notability is not a policy but it does provide some guidance as to what is included. What Wikipedia is not is policy.--A Y Arktos\talk 00:06, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

SATA
I came looking for info on eSATA, the bus technology. As long as this isn't used for the language thing, if that's settled, can we make it a redirect to SATA?

Thomas B 19:43, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Same thing just happened to me. I've never heard of this 'Esata' but I was expecting a page on eSATA or else a redirect to SATA. Dgies 02:34, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I landed here in an effort to fond out why there is not a linkage from eSATA to the SATA page. Seems a bit harsh to land on a deleted page when looking up a legitimate topic. Rdunstan 15:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Placed on Deletion Review
I have nominated this page here on deletion review so that it can be converted to a redirect to  this section on SATA. Dgies 18:01, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Protected..
eSata should be redirected to Sata #External_SATA not just the main reference. Binarypower 19:36, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I came to this discussion to request the same thing, some mod can please make it happen. --ReCover 18:17, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

It now seems that the page should redirect to Esata#eSATA. 188.221.72.16 (talk) 02:56, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Seconded:
 * Also, I'd suggest unprotecting. It's been protected since June 2006, and it's a simple redirect now... I'm sure whatever it was has long since settled. &mdash; SheeEttin {T/C} 00:01, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Unprotected. you can make the necessary modifications yourselves now. I don;t think the protection is necessary any longer. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   04:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Unprotected. you can make the necessary modifications yourselves now. I don;t think the protection is necessary any longer. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   04:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)