Talk:Escobar Inc

Scams
Will anyone ever add a section about scam accusations? TypicallyTrue (talk) 20:18, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Done.Renamed user 9323732fc06320879c0d980e8cec32bb (talk) 03:26, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

COI Cleanup
Sam-2727, The Escobar Inc page has been a subject of controversy, where it seems that two groups are trying to use the page as a Public Relations platform to make or remove certain allegations. There is a big sock farm of editors that seems to primarily come from Olof K. Gustafsson, the CEO, who has directed allegations toward the former COO, who had resigned in November of 2019. The page needs some major clean up to remove edits by the below COI editors who have been controlling the page up until now.


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Verbatimusia
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Krimlopio
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mindermind98
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Weedthine
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2607:7B00:3300:0:0:0:0:218 Drewserbs (talk) 22:20, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the heads up. I was planning on doing the necessary cleanup in a couple of weeks. In the meantime, feel free to suggest any edits here and I'll implement them into the page. Sam-2727 (talk) 23:30, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Sam-2727, I deep dived into the page and here is what I have found

Verbatimusia Created Page: 22 August 2019 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Escobar_Inc&oldid=912036080 Krimlopio edits article November 7, 2019: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Escobar_Inc&oldid=925017066
 * The general concern is that this article was written or manipulated since inception by Olof K. Gustafsson, and through multiple sock puppets has shown to consistently police the article since its creation. This entire article was not written from a neutral point of view:
 * On November 7, 2019, When Daniel D. Reitberg was removed from the company, Olof K Gustafsson removed the mention of Daniel D. Reitberg being associated with the company from the article.

Verbatimusia edits article April 25, 2020 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Escobar_Inc&oldid=953143684
 * On April 25th, 2020, when Escobar Inc sued Daniel D. Reitberg, Olof K. Gustafsson edited the page and made mention of the lawsuit and used certain allegations in a negative manner:

Mindermind98edits article May 17, 2020 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Escobar_Inc&oldid=957210120
 * On May 17th, 2020 Olof K. Gustafsson added further information about Daniel D. Reitberg onto the article, and this was likely done in the spirit of increasing web search relevance to Daniel D. Reitberg’s name and the Wikipedia article.

RECOMMENDED EDITS: “On April 11, 2016, prior to the 2016 United States presidential election, it was reported by The Washington Post, with the help of Zignal Labs that Escobar Inc Olof K. Gustafsson had helped Republican candidate Donald J. Trump obtain social media followers[22] resulting in Trump's social media presence spiking.” Drewserbs (talk) 15:38, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) Since Daniel D. Reitberg is no longer associated with Escobar Inc. since at least November 7th, 2019, the recommendation is to remove any mention of Daniel from the article in the first paragraph and under “Key people”. He is no longer the COO and he is no longer a key person.
 * 2) Daniel D. Reitberg’s role as an incorporator in 2015 is a poorly sourced reference. This can be removed under “2014 reincorporation”.
 * 3) Remove mention of May 1, 1984 as being the original incorporation of Escobar Inc. The source for Escobar Inc being created in 1984 is not reliable. Olof K. Gustafsson is referencing his own web site as a source. There is no reliable source. This can be removed from the first paragraph and in the history.
 * 4) Furthermore, this information regarding Donald J. Trump is irrelevant to Escobar Inc:
 * , I will look at this and evaluate the recommended edits in a week or so. I currently don't have the time right now. If I haven't done so in a week, please remind me as I will have likely forgotten. Thanks, Sam-2727 (talk) 18:58, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , see the revised version. Some of the changes that you suggest I didn't implement, but see if my revised version is acceptable. Chiefly, I think the section on Donald Trump is relevant since it is closely tied to the company and cited to reliable sources. Sam-2727 (talk) 23:57, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This is all crap, as Drewserbs is just another sockpuppet as well.Renamed user 9323732fc06320879c0d980e8cec32bb (talk) 02:56, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , you might very well be correct, which is why I didn't listen to all of their suggestions. Although you are likely a sockpuppet yourself, for the record, I don't think the legal case against the former COO should be included because it's a violation of WP:BLP, given the dubious information surrounding the case. Sam-2727 (talk) 05:12, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry and vandalism
There is constant sockpuppetry going on here, please lock this article and protect from vandalism. In addition, there are clearly people with special interests editing this article. ALL content that is sourced well should remain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Renamed user 9323732fc06320879c0d980e8cec32bb (talk • contribs) 03:38, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Read WP:NPOV and given your username, WP:COI. Jerod Lycett (talk) 03:43, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Content about Donald Trump
I edited this part of the page:

“On April 11, 2016, prior to the 2016 United States presidential election, it was reported by The Washington Post, with the help of Zignal Labs, that Escobar inc CEO Olof K. Gustafsson had helped Republican candidate Donald Trump obtain social media followers[17]”

but it quickly came back. I read the source (The Washington Post) and it tells a whole different story:

"SOCIAL MEDIA SPEED READ: — ZIGNAL VISUAL: Are bots behind Trump’s Twitter buzz? Trump mentions spiked Saturday, with more than 24,000 during a 15-minute period on Saturday. It was mostly driven by a Tweet from “Olof Gustafsson.” Our analytics partners at Zignal Labs looked into it: If you study his Twitter page, it appears “Olof Gustafsson” took a twa two-year hiatus from tweeting and then came back a couple weeks ago. The only tweets that have RTs are ones about Trump. That is usually (although not always) a red flag. There are a bunch of tweets of his that caused spikes over the past few days for Trump. If you go a layer deeper and look at who retweeted him, there are definitely some suspicious bot-like looking twitter handles. It is also suspicious that there are 23,000 RTs but only 12 likes on the tweet. Pro tip: When you just see a bunch of Twitter eggs as a profile picture like this for the RTs, it is a pretty strong sign of bots"

This is why I changed it. Shouldn’t the wikitext match what the source says? Impimpr rove (talk) 11:29, 4 July 2021 (UTC)